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[sumitas]

Ahhhh. So you think these 2 groups, Empire and Exelsior, are trying to pull a fast one on NY racing.

Originally Posted by sumitas

Ahhhh. So you think these 2 groups, Empire and Exelsior, are trying to pull a fast one on NY racing.

Excelsior less so. Excelsior joined in the process late because they saw it as a viable business opportunity.
They certainly haven't littered the papers with nonsense and phony accusations. They certainly haven't portrayed themselves to be anything that they aren't, a group that wants to run racing and make money.
The members are certainly more qualified with strong business backgrounds and actual accomplishments in the businesses that they run.
But fans will suffer horribly if NYRA is removed, horribly.
Costs of everything will go up, racing quality will go down, and the very folks who were clamoring agaisnt NYRA the last few years will sadly realize that what they had was much better then what they will get if either gets the nod.
Any educated fan understands that NYRA will provide the best choice for a progressive racing climate in NY, and to not hurt the fans with the burden of what the other two will call "progress".

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Ahhhh. So you think these 2 groups, Empire and Exelsior, are trying to pull a fast one on NY racing.

Pull a "fast one" on the N.Y. politicians, which see $$$ and can't think clearly.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Excelsior less so. Excelsior joined in the process late because they saw it as a viable business opportunity.
They certainly haven't littered the papers with nonsense and phony accusations. They certainly haven't portrayed themselves to be anything that they aren't, a group that wants to run racing and make money.
The members are certainly more qualified with strong business backgrounds and actual accomplishments in the businesses that they run.
But fans will suffer horribly if NYRA is removed, horribly.
Costs of everything will go up, racing quality will go down, and the very folks who were clamoring agaisnt NYRA the last few years will sadly realize that what they had was much better then what they will get if either gets the nod.Any educated fan understands that NYRA will provide the best choice for a progressive racing climate in NY, and to not hurt the fans with the burden of what the other two will call "progress".

And what Mike said, is the main thing I'm worried about if either of the two groups get it. New York's "golden egg" is Saratoga...don't kill the goose (NYRA) that has made it what it is today!

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Excelsior less so. Excelsior joined in the process late because they saw it as a viable business opportunity.
They certainly haven't littered the papers with nonsense and phony accusations. They certainly haven't portrayed themselves to be anything that they aren't, a group that wants to run racing and make money.
The members are certainly more qualified with strong business backgrounds and actual accomplishments in the businesses that they run.
But fans will suffer horribly if NYRA is removed, horribly.
Costs of everything will go up, racing quality will go down, and the very folks who were clamoring agaisnt NYRA the last few years will sadly realize that what they had was much better then what they will get if either gets the nod.
Any educated fan understands that NYRA will provide the best choice for a progressive racing climate in NY, and to not hurt the fans with the burden of what the other two will call "progress".

Repeat with me, "Don't change my Saratoga!"

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Repeat with me, "Don't change my Saratoga!"

Seek,
The funniest thing about the Empire Group is their "leaders". These guys should be wearing huge red shoes and white makeup(some already have the VERY red noses).
The sickest thing about them is that their "attacks" against NYRA border on delusional, and are filled with rampant distortions of the truth and flat out lies.
The anti NYRA folks fall within two categories 1) ignorant know nothings who quote(or misquote) some articles written by other ignorant know nothings. 2) people with their hands out or who are on the take hoping to get rich.
If you don't want saratoga to change, make sure you let your elected officials know that you support NYRA and will be one of the angry consituents looking to vote them out of office should they screw it up.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Seek,
The funniest thing about the Empire Group is their "leaders". These guys should be wearing huge red shoes and white makeup(some already have the VERY red noses).
The sickest thing about them is that their "attacks" against NYRA border on delusional, and are filled with rampant distortions of the truth and flat out lies.
The anti NYRA folks fall within two categories 1) ignorant know nothings who quote(or misquote) some articles written by other ignorant know nothings. 2) people with their hands out or who are on the take hoping to get rich.
If you don't want saratoga to change, make sure you let your elected officials know that you support NYRA and will be one of the angry consituents looking to vote them out of office should they screw it up.

I plan on doing just that and have written to the Times Union already, pretty much saying what you have here.

Other than the meeting that Empire has stated they are holding, do you know of any other public fan-based meetings that are being held? Last week's Thoroughbred Times had an article about a fan based board that brings ideas to the track officials (I believe it was at Pimlico?) and that sounded like an excellent idea to me. In my view, and I understand it's not an easy job in managing them, but tracks are really missing out on the little things that will attract more patrons.

[sumitas]

I'd be satisfied if NYRA got the franchise again. Fan wise it's a no brainer for the NYRA to win the bid.