Whats up with P. Val ?

2Hot4TV · #1 02-10-2007, 10:29 AM

My the tangled web he can weave. Pat is out with an injury and now his Agent Jim Pegram has taken the book of David Cohen. How many times can P.Val get away with this act?

paisjpq · #2 02-10-2007, 12:15 PM

I think I read last week that he has allowed his provisional (or conditional? I can't remember what they called it) license to expire...meaning i guess, that it isn't a given that he is coming back??

2Hot4TV · #3 02-10-2007, 12:30 PM

That's too bad. Sorry to hear that he is losing the battle with his demons.

paisjpq · #4 02-10-2007, 12:43 PM

the knee is his current issue, but his liscense has also expired.

http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=23221

paisjpq · #5 02-10-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Thanks for the link. Maybe I'm naive but I think he'll be back come March and as long as his drug test clear I see no reason they don't give him his license.

I have no doubt that he will be back at some point...ride in a few big races and then disappear again with an 'injury'...I feel bad for him.

Honu · #6 02-10-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

the knee is his current issue, but his liscense has also expired.

http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=23221

No liscence = no testing

I dont feel bad for him at all , if he were on the up and up and trying to do the right thing he would be back in there renewing his liscence.

paisjpq · #7 02-10-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu

No liscence = no testing

I dont feel bad for him at all , if he were on the up and up and trying to do the right thing he would be back in there renewing his liscence.

I don't feel bad that he can't ride...just that I know what it's like to try to kick a bad habit...

Honu · #8 02-10-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

I don't feel bad that he can't ride...just that I know what it's like to try to kick a bad habit...

We all have bad habits and I can relate to substance abuse problems.....but it just seems like its a never ending cycle of bullshit with the guy and truly if he was earnest about all the crap he says in person and on T.V. then it would show in his actions.

#9 02-11-2007, 02:29 AM

Maybe he should share his stash with a few of the other riders in SoCal. Looks like a few of them need a boost.

goingtothewhip · #10 02-11-2007, 02:50 AM

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Maybe he should share his stash with a few of the other riders in SoCal. Looks like a few of them need a boost.

Nakatani could use a bump... no doubt.

The Bid · #11 02-11-2007, 08:05 AM

Mig could clean a table off with that shnoz

I like Pval alot, hes the best rider in the country. I would ride Pval over anyone in California, without a doubt

2Hot4TV · #12 02-11-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah seriously. He and Solis need a major bump...or two. It's basically Gomez, Espinoza, Mig, Gryder, Court and everyone else.

Solis needs to retire and Cory needs a real agent. When he took Pat V agent he got nothing, because Pat was the draw not his agent. Cory needs to go back with Nick Cosato and go back to work.

DiscreetCat=Monster · #13 02-11-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Mig could clean a table off with that shnoz

I like Pval alot, hes the best rider in the country. I would ride Pval over anyone in California, without a doubt

Like 10 years ago when he could actually get down and ride now he looks like he is sitting strait up and hoping for the wire to come and before he dissapeard he was coming up 15 strides short and now he is way past his prime

Holland Hacker · #14 02-12-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

I like Pval alot, hes the best rider in the country. I would ride Pval over anyone in California, without a doubt

No offense intended but are you using the same dealer as PVAL?

I don't think PVAL is or was the best rider in the country, or even California for all that matters. It's truly a shame because he was a very talented rider. I think he fell in to the same trap that many other young talented atheletes do that have early success.

Just my opinion.

DiscreetCat=Monster · #15 02-13-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Holland Hacker

No offense intended but are you using the same dealer as PVAL?

I don't think PVAL is or was the best rider in the country, or even California for all that matters. It's truly a shame because he was a very talented rider. I think he fell in to the same trap that many other young talented atheletes do that have early success.

Just my opinion.

Some one else said it best on here 1st. No license no drug test. He's not fooling anybody that follows this sport. Then he'll come back when he's broke again, i guess thats better than robbin those taxi drivers.

letswastemoney · #16 02-13-2007, 03:06 AM

He could use another Sunday Silence.

ELA · #17 02-13-2007, 08:45 AM

Without question, PVal has increidble talent. The demons may be greater and stronger than the talent, who knows. I am sure that the CA board realizes that with his license expiring and with no authority over him until he applies for a renewal, they will scrutinize his application even that much more. Don't forget, his license was conditional (or provisional, I don't remember the term used), and while this may have been a legal ping pong match in the past, I am sure that the Board may have a few new conditions for PVal, and understandibly so.

As an aside to this, like him or not, having talent or not, believe in 3 strikes you're out or not, having torn up some tickets or not, or for that matter having sympathy or not -- none of that matters. We are talking about an individual who has a sickness. I don't care about the debate that says it's his fault, or it's not his fault. The who is to blame is not really important. Let's hope the guy gets help and can win a lifetime battle against those demons. I for one hope I get to tear up tickets on horses he rides for a long time, but that's just me.

How many strikes should he get? I don't know.

Eric

Sightseek · #18 02-13-2007, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ELA

Without question, PVal has increidble talent. The demons may be greater and stronger than the talent, who knows. I am sure that the CA board realizes that with his license expiring and with no authority over him until he applies for a renewal, they will scrutinize his application even that much more. Don't forget, his license was conditional (or provisional, I don't remember the term used), and while this may have been a legal ping pong match in the past, I am sure that the Board may have a few new conditions for PVal, and understandibly so.

As an aside to this, like him or not, having talent or not, believe in 3 strikes you're out or not, having torn up some tickets or not, or for that matter having sympathy or not -- none of that matters. We are talking about an individual who has a sickness. I don't care about the debate that says it's his fault, or it's not his fault. The who is to blame is not really important. Let's hope the guy gets help and can win a lifetime battle against those demons. I for one hope I get to tear up tickets on horses he rides for a long time, but that's just me.

How many strikes should he get? I don't know.

Eric

Nice post.