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Old 08-27-2009, 06:46 PM
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Think you may be 'all alone' with the some of us but that made me smile huge! Thanks

PS You should have known better when you laid that first Jimmy Carter crappy novelette down and thought 'he gets it'.
All alone? Silly Birthers like you are a minority in the GOP. Not the majority.
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:57 PM
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It is tiresome for me to see the White House consistently use deceptive "numbers" to support their claims purely for political gains.
It taints everything else that they say or do. If you want to say that it could be said about any politician fine. But the current admnistration routinely uses phony numbers (a made up number is not a fact or even a worthwhile projection) to try to curry favor for its policies most of which will prove to eventually be destructive to the average American citizens life. Hopefully I wont have to get back to you on that.
The point is that the jobs number estimate can't yet be judged to be a deceptive estimate, as the quarter hasn't even occured yet.

Yet it's okay for you to now dismiss those numbers are false as they are made up.

Sure.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:09 PM
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You don't think racism is stupid? Along with believing in death panels, the government killing grandma, and believing that the President is a secret illegal alien?



Nope. That was you, alone, digging under that stone, picking it up and running with it. Nice try.
You equate racism with conspiracy theories. I just dont know what to say?

Uh actually you were the one who threw the r word out there. There is nothing to dig, your intention was obvious.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:12 PM
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You equate racism with conspiracy theories. I just dont know what to say?

Uh actually you were the one who threw the r word out there. There is nothing to dig, your intention was obvious.
What utter nonsense, Chuck. Keep trying.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:13 PM
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The point is that the jobs number estimate can't yet be judged to be a deceptive estimate, as the quarter hasn't even occured yet.

Yet it's okay for you to now dismiss those numbers are false as they are made up.

Sure.
There is no accurate way to measure jobs "saved" in the past, present or future. Unless an alternate universe occurs where we can monitor different possibilities it is all just made up numbers. Therefore since it cant be measured ever it is a deceptive number.

You can count jobs lost.
You can count jobs gained.
You cant count jobs saved.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:17 PM
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What utter nonsense, Chuck. Keep trying.
Nonsense? Did you not say this?

They think a black guy being in their White House is a violation of their Constitution.

Please explain how this wouldn't be construed as a statement that condemns "they" as racist?
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:24 PM
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Nonsense? Did you not say this?

They think a black guy being in their White House is a violation of their Constitution.

Please explain how this wouldn't be construed as a statement that condemns "they" as racist?
Because I already clearly said it condemns them as stupid, and stupid is what I clearly used it as an example of.

Keep trying.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:43 PM
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Because I already clearly said it condemns them as stupid, and stupid is what I clearly used it as an example of.

Keep trying.
Racism is an unusual way to describe stupid.

But I will stand aside to your knowledge of stupid...
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:00 PM
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Racism is an unusual way to describe stupid.

But I will stand aside to your knowledge of stupid...
Good one

Try, not reading my statement in a way you can deliberately twist as an accusation of racism, but exactly as it was written:

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How naive can the American public really be?

They believe the President is an illegal secretly foreign-born alien. They think the government is going to take over their health care and kill grandma. They think a black guy being in their White House is a violation of their Constitution.

That's probably more gullible mixed with stupid, than naive.
Yes, Chuck, there are people that think a strict reading of the Constitution of the United States doesn't allow for anybody other than white men to be President (and that would exclude any women, too, like Hillary)

Yes, I do think those folks are stupid.
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Good one

Try, not reading my statement in a way you can deliberately twist as an accusation of racism, but exactly as it was written:



Yes, Chuck, there are people that think a strict reading of the Constitution of the United States doesn't allow for anybody other than white men to be President (and that would exclude any women, too, like Hillary)

Yes, I do think those folks are stupid.
There is no twisting. It is implied racism as is the the idea that those who would believe that the Constitution doesnt allow for anyone other than white men to be President aren't racist as opposed to strict followers of law.
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:22 PM
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There is no twisting. It is implied racism as is the the idea that those who would believe that the Constitution doesnt allow for anyone other than white men to be President aren't racist as opposed to strict followers of law.
Naw, there's clearly deliberate twisting. Keep trying.
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:24 PM
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Naw, there's clearly deliberate twisting. Keep trying.
You brought up race without context. How else would reasonable person take it?
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:28 PM
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It is tiresome for me to see the White House consistently use deceptive "numbers" to support their claims purely for political gains. It taints everything else that they say or do. If you want to say that it could be said about any politician fine. But the current admnistration routinely uses phony numbers (a made up number is not a fact or even a worthwhile projection) to try to curry favor for its policies most of which will prove to eventually be destructive to the average American citizens life. Hopefully I wont have to get back to you on that.

they sold the stimulus as necessary to keep unemployment from reaching 10%. yeah, that went well.

they sold the budget as saving money, our deficit is at a new record. new numbers indicate 2 trillion higher than what they had planned. who are they? the entire federal govt-congress and the president. it's not one person that caused this problem, and it certainly is well beyond one persons ability to fix it. the entire mindset of that group of morons needs to change-immediately. no doubt this was the change many thought would occur-oops.
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:31 PM
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You brought up race without context. How else would reasonable person take it?
A reasonable person would notice I clearly placed the comment about birthers, death panels, and constitutional whackos within the context of "stupid" (and naive, and gullible):


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How naive can the American public really be?

They believe the President is an illegal secretly foreign-born alien. They think the government is going to take over their health care and kill grandma. They think a black guy being in their White House is a violation of their Constitution.

That's probably more gullible mixed with stupid, than naive.
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:35 PM
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it's not one person that caused this problem, and it certainly is well beyond one persons ability to fix it. the entire mindset of that group of morons needs to change-immediately. no doubt this was the change many thought would occur-oops.
I know! I can't believe they didn't fix the second worse economy in our country's history in 6 months!
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:41 PM
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I know! I can't believe they didn't fix the second worse economy in our country's history in 6 months!

my point is it wasn't just bush that has gotten us here-and it certainly won't be just obama if we get out of it. it's a rotten mess that's years in the making. but the attempts thus far to fix what is horribly broken doesn't give me any faith in thinking it will be fixed any time in the near future, if ever. bush and congress during his terms were huge spenders. obama and congress are doing more of the same-actually, spending has increased dramatically in the last few months. it's not a change-certainly not an improvement.
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:06 PM
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All alone? Silly Birthers like you are a minority in the GOP. Not the majority.
I'm just trying to be sympathetic to a cause... Show the damn birth certificate, it exists cause a “official' saw it. Show it and be done. How hard is that???????
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:08 PM
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I know! I can't believe they didn't fix the second worse economy in our country's history in 6 months!

c'mon he's no Jimmy Carter but he's getting close.
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I'm just trying to be sympathetic to a cause... Show the damn birth certificate, it exists cause a “official' saw it. Show it and be done. How hard is that???????

a completely unimportant cause to get behind. hell, john edwards couldn't even visit his ho-bag baby momma without getting caught. you really think barrack obama isn't an actual citizen? i think that topic is silly.
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