Tips/Thoughts on Breeders' Cup tickets this year?

[munster705]

Hey Guys

Does anyone know when PP's will be available???

[The Bid]

Please......dirt.

[hockey2315]

They're FINALLY out. . . Sans post positions and morning line of course. . .

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i really wish i could remember where i saw the article about the 'euro turfers better than us tufers' thing being far from true. stats don't back it up at all. the top turf horses there run on very soft, very deep turf.

This is not entirely true. I was over there in Britain for a year (just returned in August) and there were some spells when the rain was scarce and the ground was pretty firm. As I recall, the entire Ascot meet was conducted on firm ground; horses were scratched because they didn't like 'to hear their feet rattle.'

[Indian Charlie]

The Damascus, after the Classic.

As much as I can't stand this group of three year olds, it should be interesting seeing the return of Into Mischief, Gayego and Georgie Boy all in the same race.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Why she keep trying that Dancing in Silks going 7f? What am I missing ? Guess she is counting on speed bias stretching him out. This lady that trains Georgie Boy has probably moved into a house with him by now. I mean that horse is her life. Be surprised if he doesn't win at low odds. THAT IS HIS DISTANCE.

[sumitas]

I prefer a cozy , dry spot to do my handicapping .

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by GBBob

A BC run in mud/slop on dirt or the BC run on a synthetic surface?

And this isn't a biased question....interested in which people would rather handicap, which is a better money making opportunity, and which surface is fairer.

And a dry, dirt track is not an option here.

I'm only taking this year because the turf will not be a bog and there are a few past BC years of SA/OSA turf races to draw information from to form opinions. I will be looking to make my money on the lawn this year. Last year, that was a risky option with the deluges. Too many "what if's".

Already looking forward to the BC at CD in 2010.

[the_fat_man]

POLY over DIRT anytime.

FAIR RACING over BIASED RACING.

The ironic thing about this year's BC is that any BIAS will be on the (speed favoring) TURF. Now, ThAT's (long overdue) PROGRESS.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The Damascus, after the Classic.

As much as I can't stand this group of three year olds, it should be interesting seeing the return of Into Mischief, Gayego and Georgie Boy all in the same race.

2 of those 3 are glorified sprinters.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

POLY over DIRT anytime.

FAIR RACING over BIASED RACING.

The ironic thing about this year's BC is that any BIAS will be on the (speed favoring) TURF. Now, ThAT's (long overdue) PROGRESS.

What's your take on the Euro jockey's?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by asudevil

2 of those 3 are glorified sprinters.

It's weird than that they'd be running 7f.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It's weird than that they'd be running 7f.

Understood, but their connections are going to point them for the Strub series where they will show their true colors.

[Merlinsky]

Mast Track's back in

http://drf.com/news/article/99304.html

Looks like they're gonna go although I dunno if Frankel's gonna listen to his blacksmith and do a patch or not. I don't exactly know everything about feet but is there a problem with putting a patch on? Is there a reason you wouldn't want to put one on for the Breeders' Cup?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Understood, but their connections are going to point them for the Strub series where they will show their true colors.

The first race in that is a G1 at 7 furlongs, what a dumb placement that would be.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by odbaxter

I need help here. Is it going to play more like Poly and Tapeta (apparent advantage to closers and turf types) or is it going to play more like dirt. Who cares what it is made off? I just want to know how it will play.

Is there any chance that the track supers will adjust how it is going to play? Speed it up? Water it? I don't have any confidence playing the non grass races.

It'll play more to turf horses but I don't think it will benefit or hinder horses on the lead or closing. Like the turf the best horse on the surface that gets a good trip will win. Don't count on a lesser horse wiring the field cause it is loose on the lead like they can on dirt. In the end it plays like turf and those cheap horses get run down on turf.

[Indian Charlie]

I think Into Mischief already is destined for stud duty next year. I think they signed a deal for him.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think Into Mischief already is destined for stud duty next year. I think they signed a deal for him.

In this economy that would be idiocy.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Kasept

KG...

With all due respect, the 'games of chance' out is the widespread excuse for those unwilling to work at capping and playing synthetic tracks. The Oak Tree racing has been fair and formful on the dirt-lile Pro-Ride surface, and regulars of West Coast circuit play have stated they aren't even thinking there is any unusually 'unique' aspect to the oval.

I agree with KG. When I'm looking at the BC races with horses coming from real dirt and turf who are trying Pro-Ride for the first time, how does the 'formful' surface at SA help my handicapping? It's a complete roll of the dice to me.

[ddthetide]

i'd say the mud/slop and soggy turf.