mccain's vp

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

at least John McCain has led american troops....

I was suprised to hear that Obama hasnt even introduced a Bill into the senate.. even the state senate. WTF has he done? Nothing. Rudy was right, only in America can someone with Obama's record (or lack there of) can be one of the two candidates running for president.

Led American troops?!

Into what? The fool was shot down and captured due to his cockiness

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think its funny that Palin has more executive experience than the other 3 guys in the election.

It is funny. It just goes to show how meaningless these purported presidential qualifications are that the liberal press throws out at the masses. And some people fall for it

The dumbing down of America. Who was it that coined that phrase, I was reminded of it while watching the RNC last night

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Mike

Led American troops?!

Into what? The fool was shot down and captured due to his cockiness

He was a Captian in the Navy, which is equivalent to the rank of colonel in the uniformed services.

besides this I'm not even going to honor your idiotic post above.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Mike

It is funny. It just goes to show how meaningless these purported presidential qualifications are that the liberal press throws out at the masses. And some people fall for it

The dumbing down of America. Who was it that coined that phrase, I was reminded of it while watching the RNC last night

yes, so lets tax tax tax the hard working american citizens and give that money to people who take advantage of the system and dont at all deserve it (now dont get me wrong, there are people out there who deserve some help).

The Dems can solve every world problem with more big government programs and spending

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by GPK

Come on Doug, honestly. Please don't tell me you believe that the majority of the press isn't liberal.

They don't seem to be imo.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

He was a Captian in the Navy, which is equivalent to the rank of colonel in the uniformed services.

Great - and the guy with the more honorable military record has lost the last four consecutive presidental elections.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think its funny that Palin has more executive experience than the other 3 guys in the election.

What do President's really do in office?

1. They appoint Supreme Court Justices that can be confirmed. To me the single most important thing that a President does and that affects our daily lives. Not sure how being a Senator instead of a Guv makes a difference here.

2) They are at the mercy of Congress. If they have the majority, they get legislation passed and their policies enacted. If not, it's all negotiation on bills, which both a Senator and Gov have equal experience doing.

3) They surround themselves with a strong Cabinet and experienced advisors. I'm not sure at this point, either Senator running for President is lacking in those skills.

4) They are the point person for foreign policy decisions. I think Senators have much more foreign policy experience and, in many cases, direct contact through committees. Governors rarely have to deal in this arena.

5) They are the face of America during a crisis. You can make the case that a Governor may have had more experience dealing with crisises at the State Level, but do you really think O'Bama or McCain would lack in this area, especially compared to Carol Brady?

There must be the perception that Governor's can "govern" better than a Senator because they usually win elections, but whether it's Dem or Repub, the last thing I'm concerned with is that point.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

They don't seem to be imo.

WOW

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by GPK

Come on Doug, honestly. Please don't tell me you believe that the majority of the press isn't liberal.

Bush would be impeached by now if the press were liberal at all.

And as for Bush/Yale and Obama/Harvard, be serious Pants. Obama's mommy and daddy didn't buy his way in.

Yes Lori, Obama wants to tax more people than McCain. Keep telling yourself that. Because Bush's tax cuts have done so much for the economy and the middle class. It's hilarious how Republicans spit out this 'Democrats will raise taxes' bullshit, without saying WHO they will raise taxes on, and the people who continuously get ****ed by Republican tax 'cuts' eat it up every time.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think its funny that Palin has more executive experience than the other 3 guys in the election.

Yes - and she also called the war in Iraq "a task from God."

Hearing about her supposed executive expierience over and over is only reason #3,245 why the Presidential Election has been reduced to nothing more than a quad-annual showcase of how collectively idiotic the American people really are.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Bush would be impeached by now if the press were liberal at all.
And as for Bush/Yale and Obama/Harvard, be serious Pants. Obama's mommy and daddy didn't buy his way in.

Yes Lori, Obama wants to tax more people than McCain. Keep telling yourself that. Because Bush's tax cuts have done so much for the economy and the middle class. It's hilarious how Republicans spit out this 'Democrats will raise taxes' bullshit, without saying WHO they will raise taxes on, and the people who continuously get ****ed by Republican tax 'cuts' eat it up every time.

Come on Joe...the press don't have a damn thing to do with impeaching a president.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

What do President's really do in office?


2) They are at the mercy of Congress. If they have the majority, they get legislation passed and their policies enacted. If not, it's all negotiation on bills, which both a Senator and Gov have equal experience doing.

which is why I find it funny that the economy has been really slumping the past year or so and everyone blames it on Bush! Who's been controlling the congress the past two years?? the Dems OMG!! Yet its all GW's fault! You said it yourself, they are at the mercy of the Congress.

But the Dems couldnt have anything to do with the slumping economy right?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

They don't seem to be imo.

they really did a great job uncovering the truth about the creep John Edwards, and that came from The Enquirer.
they were all over Palins families pregnancies within 48 hours demanding paternity tests etc.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

which is why I find it funny that the economy has been really slumping the past year or so and everyone blames it on Bush! Who's been controlling the congress the past two years?? the Dems OMG!! Yet its all GW's fault! You said it yourself, they are at the mercy of the Congress.

But the Dems couldnt have anything to do with the slumping economy right?

No..I don't really think either do...it was the banks and lending that did the most damage, IMO

Of course...didn't GDUB promise his great relations with the oil companies would help us and that Iraq would pay their debts in oil??

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

No..I don't really think either do...it was the banks and lending that did the most damage, IMO

Of course...didn't GDUB promise his great relations with the oil companies would help us and that Iraq would pay their debts in oil??

Hey GDub's made a lot of mistakes. I'm not going to make him out to be some great president. We should just be taking the oil out of Iraq IMO but who knows what will happen with that.

Palin was on key last night about energy though, we NEED to be drilling here and become self sufficient with energy.

Its not like Republicans are against finding alternative energy sources like the Dems make us out to be. Thats just wacky talk there! We just need to be drilling in the mean time cause we shouldnt be giving the Middle East and Russia our $$.

GDub's made a lot of mistakes when it comes to Oil IMO but I wouldnt for a second think McCain/Palin are like Bush in this matter.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

He was a Captain in the Navy, which is equivalent to the rank of colonel in the uniformed services.

besides this I'm not even going to honor your idiotic post above.

So, do you, Anti-trust, believe that Sarah Palin would be a stronger candidate for office if she were abducted and tortured and finally released?

That's what 90% of the argument for McCain seems to be

Yes, I was being a smart-ass in my comment about McCain's cockiness getting him shot down. I kind of like McCain, and I seriously doubt it was he that picked a complete stranger to work with him as his VP for the next(possibly final) four years of his life

I'll try not to throw dumb **** out here, but how can one seriously discuss the Palin choice? It's an insult to all Americans

[Antitrust32]

I have no idea why he picked Palin... but last night she seemed like a bad a$$ b*tch on TV.

If Obama get elected, I sure hope he doesnt make the same mistakes with terrorists as Clinton did. I hope hes 100 times more of a man than Clinton was.

The war (not just Iraq) is the #1 most important issue our country faces right now. Forget Afghanistan and Iraq, look at all the tensions with Iran, Pakistan, Lebenon, Syria, (I think the Saudi's are as bad as any of them yet Bush seems to bend over for them), North Korea, Russia.. etc.

McCain is the right man to lead our country right now in this time of crisis.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

last night she seemed like a bad a$$ b*tch on TV.

Sarcastic with a smile while reading a speech she was in isolation for two days preparing to deliver.

That's not bad ass. The top of her ticket is the bad ass - and he doesn't even pretend to believe in creationisim either.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Mike

It's an insult to all Americans

Jesus..you can't really believe that. Perhaps many of the DEM's believe that she is a threat to Obama being elected...that I can understand.
But that she is an insult to all Americans....she certainly isn't an insult to the REP party members and with an 80% approval rating in Alaska - somebody must think she is doing something right.

Actually I am insulted that Obama choose a career politician like Biden as being the 2nd on a "change" ticket. WTF is that?

And if Obama wanted so much change - why didn't he step forward to do something while he was (and still is) in the US Senate? At least Hillary has tried to do something as the NYS Senator.

[Mike]

In an effort to promote understanding between blue staters like me and red staters(I'm not sure how to describe the cultural divide) I can disclose the following:

I secretly think that Iraq war is about oil and not weapons of mass destruction. I believe that Bush-Cheney and many other type A, I'm the biggest kid in the sandbox personalities also want to get into Iran and control the Middle East oil supply. I think they justify taking other people's resources as a means of long term survival.

I don't think this is the correct way of dealing with the world.

But(and here's my disclosure),I might be wrong, maybe we do need the cutthroat bastards watching out for our self-interests at the expense of the rest of the world

At the end of the movie, "Three Days of the Condor", Lawrence Olivier says to Redford (and I'm para-phrasing to the best of my memory): Now it's about oil, but someday it will be about water. When your family has no water to drink, will you care what your government has to do to keep your children and yourself alive