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Old 10-22-2008, 07:31 AM
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I'll tell you after Saturday.....
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Old 10-22-2008, 07:36 AM
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I'll tell you after Saturday.....
I'll second that.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:06 AM
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The upcoming results will punch a hole in any foolishness saying good horses run on anything. I cannot wait to see some of these world beaters get smoked exclusively because of the surface.

I like what Reed Baker said. If you had a horse that had won 10 million on the dirt and you entered him in the Breeders Cup Turf, most people would think you are out of your mind. Thats essentially what all of these people shipping into California are doing. You take a shot because the money is so good, but it will be a day of upside down results. Once again the industry has made themselves look foolish, they cannot control themselves. Especially in California

I will standback and watch a day of false champions run on fake dirt. Its a true disgrace and I hope the Euros Sweep the Cushion Card, and I dont doubt they do exactly that

I will not make one wager
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:43 AM
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Slop.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:47 AM
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Default breeder cup pp

go to breeser cup.com and you will see all the pp.. according to group..
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:13 AM
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Slop
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:14 AM
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Here's a link to free BRIS PP's


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Old 10-22-2008, 09:17 AM
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Slop
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:18 AM
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I have the Advance version and it is fine from what I can see.
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:25 AM
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Slop
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:29 AM
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lol..all together now...
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Old 10-22-2008, 10:51 AM
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Actually this could be a great BC...........if Curlie gets trounced...
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:24 AM
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The upcoming results will punch a hole in any foolishness saying good horses run on anything. I cannot wait to see some of these world beaters get smoked exclusively because of the surface.

I like what Reed Baker said. If you had a horse that had won 10 million on the dirt and you entered him in the Breeders Cup Turf, most people would think you are out of your mind. Thats essentially what all of these people shipping into California are doing. You take a shot because the money is so good, but it will be a day of upside down results. Once again the industry has made themselves look foolish, they cannot control themselves. Especially in California

I will standback and watch a day of false champions run on fake dirt. Its a true disgrace and I hope the Euros Sweep the Cushion Card, and I dont doubt they do exactly that

I will not make one wager
I hope that the Euro's sweep the card as well. But that doesn't have any impact on the quality of the Champion. The Duke, HTN and RP in the Classic are all proven G1 winners against higher class and better quality stock then the US has to offer. How would they be considered a false champion.
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:03 PM
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Thanks for the link Djarum. Much appreciated.
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:30 PM
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Giant's Causeway ran a heck of a race to Tiznow.
Yes, yes he did
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:55 PM
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Synthetic over slop any day. Much fairer to the horses
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:59 PM
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synthetic. sloppy main tracks account for about 90% of my worst handicapping days ever (and state bred stakes days account for about 9% of the rest).
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:55 PM
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I'm looking forward to this BC about fifty times more than I looked forward to last year's,

Will take synthetic over soup any day of the week.
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:37 PM
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i'd say the mud/slop and soggy turf.
me too. most turfers seem to relish only a certain kind of ground, so if they like it hard and firm, and it comes up soft, you can start narrowing down the field with confidence.
as for betting on poly with confidence....not so much.
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:38 PM
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The upcoming results will punch a hole in any foolishness saying good horses run on anything. I cannot wait to see some of these world beaters get smoked exclusively because of the surface.

I like what Reed Baker said. If you had a horse that had won 10 million on the dirt and you entered him in the Breeders Cup Turf, most people would think you are out of your mind. Thats essentially what all of these people shipping into California are doing. You take a shot because the money is so good, but it will be a day of upside down results. Once again the industry has made themselves look foolish, they cannot control themselves. Especially in California

I will standback and watch a day of false champions run on fake dirt. Its a true disgrace and I hope the Euros Sweep the Cushion Card, and I dont doubt they do exactly that

I will not make one wager
i would agree with his take on that.
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