More relatively meidocre performances by our turf and synthetic horses in Dubai

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

I guess my thought is that these are horses did all of their preparation in the UAE and were not shipped from America the week before the race, and put back on a plane to the US right after. Those are what I view as "American horses" to run in Dubai. You can call me a shill for Dubai racing, but if anything, I think I'm actually being quite critical of the records.

Obviously, we have different definitions on what we consider US horses to be.

I looked at it this way ... if the majority of their past races and training time within the last year of the race were in the United States... they're American horses.

Maybe I shouldn't have called you a shill for Dubai racing, but you do promote it and you do a nice job of promoting it.

However, seeing you write how a stone cold Calder horse like Express Tour was going into the UAE Derby, and suggesting he isn't an American horse, but rather a Dubai horse...that's crazy to me.

We bicker about this every year ... but lets use Invasor for example.

I considered him a horse from Uruguay going into his UAE Derby run. He came into the race having won the Triple Crown in Uruguay in his most recent starts, thus he represented Urugay for that race.

Going into the Dubai World Cup, I considered him an American horse, because he spent the past 11 months racing and training in the United States.

A horse like Whilly counts as American for that reason. He came out of Italy, but Doug O' Neill had him in Southern Cal for a better part of a year and he was racing on the West Coast leading up to his 2nd place finish on the Turf in Dubai.

[Calzone Lord]

American based horses on the Turf in Dubai World Cup races.

Dubai Duty Free:

2000: Ladies Din 5th * multiple Grade 1 winner
2000: Takarian 8th
2000: Band Is Passing 11th

2001: Ladies Din 11th * multiple Grade 1 winner

2002: Val Royal 5th * Breeders Cup Mile winner
2002: Del Mar Show 10th

2004: Sarafan 10th * Gr 1 winning multi-millionaire

2005: Whilly 2nd

2006: The Tin Man 2nd * 4-time Gr 1 winner.
2006: Host 4th * Grade 1 winner
2006: Whilly 11th

2007: English Channel 12th * 6-time Gr 1 winner. Eclipse champion turf horse
2007: Miesque's Approval 15th * Eclipse champion turf horse
2007: Lava Man 16th * Grade 1 winner on all 3 surfaces

2008: Notional 16th * Thoro-Graph somehow had him the fastest horse in this race and picked him in analysis. He was beaten 29 lengths.

2009: Kip Deville 10th * 4-time Grade 1 winner. '07 BC Mile winner. '08 BC Mile 2nd place finish.
2009: Hyperberic 14th

2010: The Usual Q. T. 4th * Multiple Grade 1 winner
2010: Take The Points 5th * Multiple Grade 1 winner
2010: Courageous Cat 9th * Grade 1 winner. 2nd in '09 BC Mile.
2010: Justenuffhumor 15th
2010: Tam Lin 16th

2011: Victor's Cry 5th * Grade 1 winner



Dubai Sheema Classic:

2000: Thesaurus 13th
2000: Potrizaris 16th

2004: Hard Buck 2nd * Grade 1 winner

2005: Prince Arch 6th * Grade 1 winner

2006: Mustanfar 9th
2006: Relaxed Gesture 12th * Grade 1 winner

2007: Honey Ryder 11th * Multiple Grade 1 winner
2007: Host 12th * Grade 1 winner
2007: Obrigado 13th

2008: Better Talk Now 9th * 5 time Grade 1 winner. BC Turf winner.
2008: Spring House 10th

2009: Marsh Side 5th * Multiple Grade 1 winner
2009: Red Rocks 12th * Beat Curlin on turf in Grade 1 Man O' War for Mark Hennig the summer prior. Hennig had him this race.

2010: Precious Passion 16th * Mutliple Grade 1 winner. BC Turf second place finisher.

2011: Bourban Bay 11th * 7-time Graded Stakes winner
2011: Champ Pegasus 12th * Grade 1 winner


Al Quoz Sprint:

2010: California Flag 3rd * 2009 BC Turf Sprint winner

2011: Quick Enough 8th
2011: Stardivinsky 13th
2011: Mr Gruff 16th

2012: Regally Ready 14th * Grade 1 winner and 2nd in BC Turf Sprint


American horses in Synthetic routes in Dubai World Cup races.


Dubai World Cup:

2010: Gio Ponti 4th * 2nd in BC Classic a few months prior.
2010: Richard's Kid 7th * 2-time Pacific Classic winner
2010: Furthest Land 14th * Breeders Cup Synthetic Mile winner

2011: Gio Ponti 5th
2011: Richard's Kid 12th
2011: Fly Down 13th * last race for Zito, was 3rd in BC Classic a few months prior

2012: Royal Delta 9th * 2-time BC Ladies Classic winner
2012: Game On Dude 12th * was 2nd in BC Classic a few months prior


Godolphin Mile:

2010: Desert Party 11th as the huge favorite.

2011: Make Music For Me 7th
2011: Conveyance 8th
2011: I Want Revenge 10th
2011: Crowded House 14th

2012: Richards Kid 4th


UAE Derby:

2011: Sweet Ducky 13th
2012: Lucky Chappy 7th