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King Glorious · #41 01-14-2020, 12:09 PM

I get what you’re saying but I think it’s closer to the same argument than you think it is. I understood that the more logical (much more) decision was for Bricks and Mortar to run in the Turf. That was not in question. I wanted to see a challenge and something special. But I knew what made sense from a business perspective. Just as I understand why the owners of Maximum Security would chose a $20 million purse over a $3 million one. Your desire is definitely more logical though.

Kasept · #42 01-22-2020, 01:44 PM

$3 million PEGASUS WORLD CUP

To be run Saturday as race 12 of 12
Post time: 5:45 p.m. Eastern
TV: NBC (4:30-6)
For 4-year-olds and up at 1 1/8 miles

(PP, Horse, Jockey, GP M/L)

1. TRUE TIMBER, J.Bravo, 20-1
2. TAX, J.Ortiz, 12-1
3. DIAMOND OOPS, J.Leparoux, 20-1
4. SEEKING THE SOUL, J.Velazquez, 30-1
5. OMAHA BEACH, M.Smith, 7-5
6. HIGHER POWER, F.Prat, 6-1
7. WAR STORY, J.Rosario, 30-1
8. MR FREEZE, L.Saez, 30-1
9. SPUN TO RUN, J.Castellano, 7-2
10. MUCHO GUSTO, I.OrtizJr., 9-2
11. TENFOLD, T.Gaffalione, 30-1
12. BODEXPRESS, E.Jaramillo, 30-1

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$1 million PEGASUS WORLD CUP TURF

Race 11 of 12
Post time, 5:15
For 4-year-olds and up at 1 3/16 miles (turf)

(PP, Horse, Jockey, GP M/L)

1. ZULU ALPHA, T.Gaffalione, 12-1
2. ARKLOW, L.Saez, 6-1
3. WITHOUT PAROLE, F.Dettori, 4-1
4. SADLER’S JOY, J.Castellano, 8-1
5. CHANNEL CAT, J.Velazquez, 10-1
6. INSTILLED REGARD, I.OrtizJr., 10-1
7. ADMISSION OFFICE, F.Prat, 30-1
8. HENLEY’S JOY, J.Leparoux, 30-1
9. NEXT SHARES, J.ValdiviaJr., 30-1
10. MO FORZA, J.Rosario, 5-1
11. SACRED LIFE, J.Ortiz, 12-1
12. MAGIC WAND, R.Moore, 7-2
13 (AE). TUSK, no rider, 30-1

blackthroatedwind · #43 01-22-2020, 03:14 PM

I saw some quotes from Mandella saying he has never had a better horse than Omaha Beach. I just don't understand why any trainer would say something like that. Pleasantly Perfect, just to name one, would have broken him in half at 9F and up. Beholder? I imagine if we had a list of his horses over the last 30 years, there would be more than a few.

knickslions2 · #44 01-22-2020, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I saw some quotes from Mandella saying he has never had a better horse than Omaha Beach. I just don't understand why any trainer would say something like that. Pleasantly Perfect, just to name one, would have broken him in half at 9F and up. Beholder? I imagine if we had a list of his horses over the last 30 years, there would be more than a few.

Ya I thought that was a strange quote. I need to look at this race deeper but cant see Omaha Beach losing. This is a slow field.

cakes44 · #45 01-22-2020, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I saw some quotes from Mandella saying he has never had a better horse than Omaha Beach. I just don't understand why any trainer would say something like that. Pleasantly Perfect, just to name one, would have broken him in half at 9F and up. Beholder? I imagine if we had a list of his horses over the last 30 years, there would be more than a few.

Saw that too and PP immediately came to mind. Very underrated horse and I have no idea how Omaha Beach would even warm him up in a fairly run race.

moses · #46 01-22-2020, 04:24 PM

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Ya I thought that was a strange quote. I need to look at this race deeper but cant see Omaha Beach losing. This is a slow field.

I haven’t seen the PPs for this yet...so I’m just going off memory...but Mucho Gusto, Spun to Run, and Bodexpress are all pretty fast.

I honestly think Spun to Run may be a better horse at this point in their respective careers. I’ve got to take a look as well but I’ve got a feeling I’m going to fall in love with Diamond Oops and hammer him at 20-1.

knickslions2 · #47 01-22-2020, 05:26 PM

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I haven’t seen the PPs for this yet...so I’m just going off memory...but Mucho Gusto, Spun to Run, and Bodexpress are all pretty fast.

I honestly think Spun to Run may be a better horse at this point in their respective careers. I’ve got to take a look as well but I’ve got a feeling I’m going to fall in love with Diamond Oops and hammer him at 20-1.

Spun to Run is a toss for me here. Distance not in his wheel house. Mucho needs to get out control pace and hold on. While I don’t see a hot pace and he could go long way I think there are a few others that may try to do same thing. Higher Power is interesting play here and would be my second choice but still think Omaha Beach will pounce on them all.

moses · #48 01-22-2020, 07:05 PM

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Spun to Run is a toss for me here. Distance not in his wheel house. Mucho needs to get out control pace and hold on. While I don’t see a hot pace and he could go long way I think there are a few others that may try to do same thing. Higher Power is interesting play here and would be my second choice but still think Omaha Beach will pounce on them all.

It’s hard for me to toss Spun to Run. He has only gotten better with age. I don’t dislike Omaha Beach but I really don’t like the 7/5 ML.

Dahoss · #49 01-22-2020, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I saw some quotes from Mandella saying he has never had a better horse than Omaha Beach. I just don't understand why any trainer would say something like that. Pleasantly Perfect, just to name one, would have broken him in half at 9F and up. Beholder? I imagine if we had a list of his horses over the last 30 years, there would be more than a few.

I have nothing but respect for Mandella as a trainer but Omaha Beach would need a head start to beat Gentlemen. Siphon was no slouch either.

Dahoss · #50 01-22-2020, 07:38 PM

Count me in the group that is against Omaha Beach in here. I think the race sets up for a deep closer and for that reason alone I’m going to try and get Seeking the Soul in the number. I know his last few have been BAD but Dallas Stewart has a habit of having his runners surprise at a huge number

blackthroatedwind · #51 01-22-2020, 08:43 PM

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I have nothing but respect for Mandella as a trainer but Omaha Beach would need a head start to beat Gentlemen. Siphon was no slouch either.

Yeah, Gentlemen would have lapped him.

Alabama Stakes · #52 01-22-2020, 09:18 PM

Jose Ortiz chooses Tax over Spun to Run. Not sure what to make of that .
Mr Freeze gets Big upgrade to Luis Saez from Robby Albarado. I like him.
I wonder if Irad Ortiz Jr. will make a difference on Mucho Gusto instead of Joe Talamo.

Dahoss · #53 01-22-2020, 09:46 PM

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Jose Ortiz chooses Tax over Spun to Run. Not sure what to make of that .
Mr Freeze gets Big upgrade to Luis Saez from Robby Albarado. I like him.
I wonder if Irad Ortiz Jr. will make a difference on Mucho Gusto instead of Joe Talamo.

How did Jose choose Tax over Spun to Run? Irad has been riding Spun to Run.

Alabama Stakes · #54 01-22-2020, 11:27 PM

Either need new readers, or less reefers.
Irad took mucho gusto who he hasn’t ridden, over Spun to Run and tax who he won graded stakes under. Not sure how you get off a Breeders cup winner who made him a lot of money for one race.

Dahoss · #55 01-23-2020, 12:06 AM

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Either need new readers, or less reefers.
Irad took mucho gusto who he hasn’t ridden, over Spun to Run and tax who he won graded stakes under. Not sure how you get off a Breeders cup winner who made him a lot of money for one race.

A pretty smart guy thought it was a way to get into the Baffert barn. Made a lot of sense.

He’s going to make a lot more money in the long run riding for Baffert

Kasept · #56 01-23-2020, 09:31 AM

OMAHA BEACH a SCR with developing fracture.. PRIVMAN: https://www.drf.com/news/omaha-beach...asus-world-cup

HALLANDALE BEACH, Fla. - Omaha Beach has what appears to be the beginning of a fracture in his right hind leg and will be scratched from the $3 million Pegasus World Cup on Saturday at Gulfstream Park, trainer Richard Mandella said Thursday afternoon.

"He went out for a gallop this morning, cooled out great, but we noticed something later," Mandella said. "We X-rayed his right hind ankle. It's questionable what's there, but it looks like it might be the beginning of a cannon-bone fracture. We can't take a chance."

Mandella said the X-rays were sent to noted veterinarian Dr. Larry Bramlage, who evaluated the images.

The Pegasus was scheduled to be the final start for Omaha Beach before going to stud next month at Spendthrift Farm. His star-crossed career included having to be scratched from the Kentucky Derby owing to an entrapped epiglottis days before the race. He raced 10 times, and won three Grade 1 races.

Earlier Thursday, Spun to Run was scratched from the Pegasus. The original field of 12 is now to 10.

Skin disease outbreak KO's SPUN TO RUN.. https://live.drf.com/nuggets/50205-s...se-per-trainer