English Channel- Track Record - Page 3

randallscott35 · #41 02-22-2007, 11:48 PM

What will English Channel's Beyer Be?

I'll go with 104.

The Indomitable DrugS · #42 02-22-2007, 11:48 PM

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I'm pretty stingy, but Skip Away and Formal Gold certainly came close IMO, and maybe Manila on the turf. I'm not sure I would call her great but Ouiji Board sure feels pretty special. But it's hard for me to get a real handle on Euros.

Come to think of it, Lure may have been close.

For me....

American based Dirt: Ghostzapper and Discreet Cat (who will prove what he needs to this year)

American based Turf: Lure and Kotashann

GPK · #43 02-22-2007, 11:48 PM

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Thanks for clearing that up.....I was very upset.

I was just about to start a thread saying I was leaving.

10 paces....then we will see who can shut their laptop the fastest...

GPK · #44 02-22-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

What will English Channel's Beyer Be?

I'll go with 104.

I dont know...but Drugs seems to have that stuff down...

randallscott35 · #45 02-22-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

For me....

American based Dirt: Ghostzapper and Discreet Cat (who will prove what he needs to this year)

American based Turf: Lure and Kotashann

I think Discreet Cat is the next horse that could do it, if he has a chance to show it. But he is like Ghostzapper in that he seems to be fragile or at least handled like that. I'd like to see an actual campaign this year, not 3 races.

The Indomitable DrugS · #46 02-22-2007, 11:50 PM

I'm not a big fan of Turf figures......

I don't even bother projecting them or fooling around with them.

GPK · #47 02-22-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'm not a big fan of Turf figures......

I don't even bother projecting them or fooling around with them.

what about them dont you like?

blackthroatedwind · #48 02-22-2007, 11:53 PM

It's hard for English Channel's fig to be very good when you consider who ran second and third and what they are capable of.

Turf figs are irrelevent anyway.

And, by the way DrugS, Kotashan? What were you excited by his thrilling duels with Bien Bien?

blackthroatedwind · #49 02-22-2007, 11:56 PM

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what about them dont you like?

They are meaningless as turf final times are completly a function of pace.

GPK · #50 02-22-2007, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They are meaningless as turf final times are completly a function of pace.

meaningless just in Beyer #'s or in sheet #'s also?

randallscott35 · #51 02-22-2007, 11:57 PM

Personally, I do like the Thoros numbers for turf races. I find the patterns much more predictable, but of course on turf, the trip is so important.

#52 02-23-2007, 12:00 AM

Ghostzapper's 2005 Met Mile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rTgIMEzce8

It's a shame he didn't get to finish the year.

The Indomitable DrugS · #53 02-23-2007, 12:00 AM

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And, by the way DrugS, Kotashan? What were you excited by his thrilling duels with Bien Bien?

I was actually.

I thought the final 8 races of his career were all spectacular. I guess they all came in a 10 month window, and he wasn't all that much before that, so I can see how he misses your cut.

...... That and he's never won anything better than a French Group 3 outside of So Cal.

I've seen many Euro based one's who I'd rate above him since, Daylami especially....but, Kotashaan was a fairly deserving Horse of the Year in '93, on the basis of the final 8 races of his career.

GPK · #54 02-23-2007, 12:03 AM

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Ghostzapper's 2005 Met Mile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rTgIMEzce8

It's a shame he didn't get to finish the year.

LOL.....Forest Danger at 2-1

randallscott35 · #55 02-23-2007, 12:04 AM

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LOL.....Forest Danger at 2-1

Oh yes, they line up to bet Pletcher.

GPK · #56 02-23-2007, 12:07 AM

I leave you boys with this as I head to bed....Da Man

Scav · #57 02-23-2007, 12:10 AM

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I leave you boys with this as I head to bed....Da Man

THAT WAS THREE years AGO......THREE...you should at least put a picture up there when he won at Churchill last year...

randallscott35 · #58 02-23-2007, 12:13 AM

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THAT WAS THREE years AGO......THREE...you should at least put a picture up there when he won at Churchill last year...

If he did that he might have to show how Cacique was ridden into a wall and would've collared his boy had he gotten out in time. Able to turn the tables in the Manhattan, however.

GPK · #59 02-23-2007, 12:13 AM

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THAT WAS THREE years AGO......THREE...you should at least put a picture up there when he won at Churchill last year...

that was 2005 genius...his 3 yo year....he is 5 this year.

Scav · #60 02-23-2007, 12:15 AM

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that was 2005 genius...his 3 yo year....he is 5 this year.

I thought he won that race as a 2 year old, oh, his 3 year old year, when he was suppose to be nut CITY in the Secretariat Stakes at Arlington, 1200 for Scav if he wins and NO, Gun Salute beats him...or Cool Commander, whatever the f'n horses name was.....FRIGGIN GUN SALUTE????? Laviolette could beat Gun Salute on a 50k claimer from Arlington