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Old 04-17-2007, 02:43 PM
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According to bloodhorse, the horse didn't meet her reserve and was bought back (will still be trained by Ward). See quote below.

Van Meter indicated the filly would remain with trainer with Wesley Ward, who co-owns the filly with Robert Tanklage. "She's going to get some time off and I think we will see her again at Del Mar," he said
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:44 PM
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The ill fated Gallant Secret was 2nd in 2004 (she was pulled up in the Deleware Oaks). The filly, Five Star Holding, was the one who was 2nd behind Half Ours.
But at least Gallant Secret went on to dance lots of dances between that and her last race. She had a pretty good run.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:48 PM
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The only horse I can remember in the last several years to run in one of the 4.5F races at KEE then actually turn out to be something as an elder was Limehouse.

1 in about 1000 is not a very good track record. Good luck to them...
Did any of these winners break their maidens previously at KEE?

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The only horse I can remember in the last several years to run in one of the 4.5F races at KEE then actually turn out to be something as an elder was Limehouse.

1 in about 1000 is not a very good track record. Good luck to them...

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Old 04-17-2007, 02:49 PM
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$300K can actually be spent much worse in this game.

I believe Angel Island and Appealing Zophie were jointly the two fastest fillies to win going 4.5 at KEE last year....

One of them would become a Grade 1 winner, the other hasn't raced since.

That filly will really have her hands full with the freaky Sea of Pleasure on Derby week---if the new owners intend to run there.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:50 PM
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Badge of Silver was still running well in Grade 1 races at age 6 after winning a 4.5 furlong race at KEE by a pole.

He, however, came out of the race with a fractured leg, and would fracture it again later on in his career.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:55 PM
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Did any of these winners break their maidens previously at KEE?

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Lunarpal did.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:58 PM
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Lunarpal did.
As did Yes It's True, and previously mentioned Favorite Trick and More Than Ready.

I think champion 2yo Answer Lively and Hollywood Futurity winner Tactical Cat ran against each other in the same race, in one of those 4.5f KEE races in '98.

I think City Zip might have come out of one of those races as well....but I'm not totally sure about that. There've been a few OK ones.
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Badge of Silver was still running well in Grade 1 races at age 6 after winning a 4.5 furlong race at KEE by a pole.

He, however, came out of the race with a fractured leg, and would fracture it again later on in his career.
not that it's really relevant but he also had really crappy feet that he got from his mother Silveroo...and a tender footed horse is often more likely to hurt itself somewhere else...
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not that it's really relevant but he also had really crappy feet that he got from his mother Silveroo...and a tender footed horse is often more likely to hurt itself somewhere else...

When did relevance become a prerequisite around here?
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When did relevance become a prerequisite around here?
good point.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:08 PM
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Earlier than I was thinking of in the "last few years" but both are certainly qualified as good at 3 and beyond. Still the "current" era of racing.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:10 PM
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not that it's really relevant but he also had really crappy feet that he got from his mother Silveroo...and a tender footed horse is often more likely to hurt itself somewhere else...
I think Badge of Silver could have been something special if they could have kept him in one piece...
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Isn't there something physical that needs to happen to a horse (like their knees closing or something) that once it happens they are fine to run. For some 2yos it happens early and they are fine to race in February, for others it doesn't happen until later and it is a bad idea to run them that early. That was the impression I was under. Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:15 PM
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Isn't there something physical that needs to happen to a horse (like their knees closing or something) that once it happens they are fine to run. For some 2yos it happens early and they are fine to race in February, for others it doesn't happen until later and it is a bad idea to run them that early. That was the impression I was under. Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?
Bethani would be able to go into much more detail but I don't think they break them until they knees are closed and I think most people radiograph them. Horses of other breeds don't mature as quickly.
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Isn't there something physical that needs to happen to a horse (like their knees closing or something) that once it happens they are fine to run. For some 2yos it happens early and they are fine to race in February, for others it doesn't happen until later and it is a bad idea to run them that early. That was the impression I was under. Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?
Ask Xtra or I'll ask her for you, that's her area of expertise.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:27 PM
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Bethani would be able to go into much more detail but I don't think they break them until they knees are closed and I think most people radiograph them. Horses of other breeds don't mature as quickly.
I know warmbloods definitely take longer for their knees to close. Interesting question brought up, though. I often wondered if they made sure their knees were closed before breaking them.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:31 PM
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I know warmbloods definitely take longer for their knees to close. Interesting question brought up, though. I often wondered if they made sure their knees were closed before breaking them.
Yeah, it's pretty amazing that you can't start jumping them until 5 or 6 but you can run a Thoroughbred at full speed at 2!
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She failed to meet her reserve. Eaton bought her back for $300k. Here is whats saif about her conformation.

"While she is really fast, she has one wheel that the conformation is off a little bit," said Eaton Sales partner Tom Van Meter. "It was just tough to get her past the market. Everybody came to look at her, but it was just tough to get her passed through. Her left knee was a little freaky, and she was a tad offset and toed-in a bit."
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:21 PM
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Does paying $300k for the 4.5F record holder make any more or less since than $1.5 Mil for that Mineshaft filly that went 1F in 9.6 seconds?
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