Patriots punishment - Page 3

golfer · #41 09-13-2007, 07:22 AM

Glenn Foley?

viscount26 · #42 09-13-2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

This one is a no brainer Hoss......You need to do something that punishes Kraft as much as the other Mr B.

THE PATRIOTS PLAY TWO GAMES AT NEW YORK JETS NEXT YEAR!!!!!

The punishment is both financial and psychological by giving a playing advantage to the team wronged while avoiding the dreaded punishing by draft picks which just means the Patriots use that money on free agents. Mr B would never really serve a suspension as he would still manage the team secretly. If you force the Pats to lose millions in concessions and parking revenue plus try and concentrate before the hostile crowd from hell X 2 you have a quid pro quo where the offense occured. A home game is huge!!!

That would work for me, as Brady is 6-0 against the Jets in the Meadowlands

SCUDSBROTHER · #43 09-13-2007, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Stealing signs is a big deal? It is ok for 90% of the league to be juiced to the gills but we should take away a win for videotaping signs? I always thought they should try to tap into the headphones and call in phony plays.

What else would you expect from a steroid trainer? They gunna get rid of that stuff? Seems only the horseracing industry considers that stuff healthfood for horses.

#44 09-13-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I can't believe there are 45 posts about this.

It's not as though you can gain a real meaningfull edge in the game by doing what NE was caught doing.

The NFL has made a very big deal about this BEFORE this act. Why is it illegal? Because it gives advantage. Why did the owners and commish vote this rule in?

It is a big deal. Every team and coach knows this is ILLEGAL. No its not a crime outside of the game so comparing it to what Pacman does is irrelevant (not to say you were).

No way they take a game away from Patriots, I just wish they would. That would have a huge effect on Belechick.

Cannon Shell · #45 09-13-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

What else would you expect from a steroid trainer? They gunna get rid of that stuff? Seems only the horseracing industry considers that stuff healthfood for horses.

Juan Pierre could use a dose

skippy3481 · #46 09-13-2007, 09:10 PM

Interesting penalty
Coach must pay 500k fine
Team must pay 250k fine
If they make the playoffs they lose their first round pick in 08

#47 09-13-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

Interesting penatly
Coach must pay 500k fine
Team must pay 250k fine
If they make the playoffs they lose their first round pick in 08

It is.
They put a bit of a hurt on them if they succeed.
Kinda neat idea.

hi_im_god · #48 09-13-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

Interesting penatly
Coach must pay 500k fine
Team must pay 250k fine
If they make the playoffs they lose their first round pick in 08

that's a pretty severe penalty.

hopefully the nut cases demanding a forfeit can untangle their panties and get back to life now.

skippy3481 · #49 09-13-2007, 09:26 PM

Really its just the draft pick, Kraft will cover the fine. First round pick is a big hit though.

docicu3 · #50 09-13-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

that's a pretty severe penalty.

hopefully the nut cases demanding a forfeit can untangle their panties and get back to life now.

The NFL missed an opportunity to hold Kraft responsible for his team's sins...that was a mistake. The Patriots will find a way to pay Bill's fine and the #1 will just have his money spent on a upper level free agent.

Cannon Shell · #51 09-13-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

The NFL missed an opportunity to hold Kraft responsible for his team's sins...that was a mistake. The Patriots will find a way to pay Bill's fine and the #1 will just have his money spent on a upper level free agent.

I dont think that it as easy as that...salary cap implications....draft picks are slotted for a certain number while free agents count in a different, more severe cost. I'm sure that the NFL has decreed that the money must come from Belichek and if found circumventing that then the penalty to be even more severe.

declansharbor · #52 09-13-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by viscount26

Yeah right,
Get caught taking steroids and play for your team in the play offs.
Chargers fans should be pleased by that justice handed out to Merriman

Different regime. Safe to say that if the Merriman antics happened this yr, there would be a total different set of punishment levied down.

skippy3481 · #53 09-13-2007, 10:38 PM

Kraft pays that fine its easy. Either as an end of season bonus, or in his next contract. Kraft is not stupid, there are so many ways to get around it with him not actually "paying" the fine.

GBBob · #54 09-13-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

Really its just the draft pick, Kraft will cover the fine. First round pick is a big hit though.

Don't they have two #1s next year though?

skippy3481 · #55 09-13-2007, 10:44 PM

Yes, they do, its san fransico's.

GBBob · #56 09-13-2007, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

Yes, they do, its san fransico's.

Well...since I think making the playoffs is a safe bet, then they are back to square one. Can't count the fines because that is...how do you say it...
POCKET CHANGE to them

docicu3 · #57 09-13-2007, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think that it as easy as that...salary cap implications....draft picks are slotted for a certain number while free agents count in a different, more severe cost. I'm sure that the NFL has decreed that the money must come from Belichek and if found circumventing that then the penalty to be even more severe.

The actual check will come from Coach Bill but it will also circle back to him
within the year. The whole thing is a joke and mark my words Coach Bill already knows who else has crossed this line and there will be more "announcement" of new violations that will come from "a source close to the NFL" etc etc

Cannon Shell · #58 09-13-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

The actual check will come from Coach Bill but it will also circle back to him
within the year. The whole thing is a joke and mark my words Coach Bill already knows who else has crossed this line and there will be more "announcement" of new violations that will come from "a source close to the NFL" etc etc

If everyone is doing it is it really a big deal? I mean they were videotaping the other teams signs, not poisioning the gatorade. I guess I may be stupid but I assumed that they were all doing this anyway.

skippy3481 · #59 09-13-2007, 11:38 PM

Yes its a big deal. Just because a good deal of people do it does not make it right. Videotaping signs can be a huge deal. If you know what defense they are calling in, you have a massive advantage. It matters not who else or how many have done it. It's illegal to do it and they were caught, they deserve whatever they get.

BillW · #60 09-13-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If everyone is doing it is it really a big deal? I mean they were videotaping the other teams signs, not poisioning the gatorade. I guess I may be stupid but I assumed that they were all doing this anyway.

From what I understand the league covered this specific violation in their yearly training camp tour to review new rules, violations, league policies etc. just a few weeks before the start of the season. I guess it pissed them off that he just thumbed his nose at them.