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Old 04-07-2008, 10:46 AM
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Awesome update Steve. Thanks!

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Old 04-07-2008, 11:11 AM
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For once I can't say I completely disagree with him. If they were males and you looked at their past performances would they really be any worse than 4th or 5th choice?
True... and I think while in the betting they may not be 4th or 5th choice, in real talent and potential to win the Derby, I think you are on point. Who would be ahead of them besides Pyro, Big Brown, and Colonel John?
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:17 AM
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True... and I think while in the betting they may not be 4th or 5th choice, in real talent and potential to win the Derby, I think you are on point. Who would be ahead of them besides Pyro, Big Brown, and Colonel John?
Unless someone emerges in the next two weeks I have absolutely no guess who would go off as the 4th choice. Could be any of about 8 different horses.
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:27 AM
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Unless someone emerges in the next two weeks I have absolutely no guess who would go off as the 4th choice. Could be any of about 8 different horses.
Right now it would be either War Pass or Tale of Ekati. Both will likely be eclipsed for that spot in the coming week.
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:33 AM
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Right now it would be either War Pass or Tale of Ekati. Both will likely be eclipsed for that spot in the coming week.
Tale of Ekati is looking better and better to me, although I fear that Saturday might have taken alot out of him, jock was really all over him, I thought he was a Derby horse last year, but then I couldn't understand what Tagg was doing with him. Tagg is probably a top 5 trainer in my opinion. I mean, he knew he had the earnings with this horse, and said, what is the point to have him ready, I'll get him ready in April. Derby will be what, his 4th start this year? Should be fresh, and should also get the trip. I just hope he doesn't get nuts and throw 57 or 58 works into this horse, would love to see some 6f 115 and 5f in 101, nice and relaxed
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:35 AM
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Awesome update Steve. Thanks!

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23 Atoned Todd Pletcher $130,000
24 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $129,000
25 Blackberry Road David Carroll $123,417
26 My Pal Charlie Al Stall Jr. $120,000

Those 4 respresent horses that 'technically' appear within the starting grid should the unlikelies NOT run... But of course all except Atoned will run this weekend and stand pretty good chances to improve their placement on the earnings list.
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:42 AM
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Tale of Ekati is looking better and better to me, although I fear that Saturday might have taken alot out of him, jock was really all over him, I thought he was a Derby horse last year, but then I couldn't understand what Tagg was doing with him. Tagg is probably a top 5 trainer in my opinion. I mean, he knew he had the earnings with this horse, and said, what is the point to have him ready, I'll get him ready in April. Derby will be what, his 4th start this year? Should be fresh, and should also get the trip. I just hope he doesn't get nuts and throw 57 or 58 works into this horse, would love to see some 6f 115 and 5f in 101, nice and relaxed
Actually it'll only be his 3rd start of the year, which until last year was voodoo. Personally, I don't like him at all for the Derby, seeing them come home in 14 seconds was all I had to know about the Wood this year.

His owner is cool as sh*t though, Steve you should try to get him on the show!
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I think Salute the Sarge is going to the Lexington. If he doesn't fall completely on his face I expect they will probably run him in the Derby since the owner seems to be determined to have a Derby horse and Signature Move isn't going.
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Either way, a Jones-trained filly is in a top spot on the list.. Would be very surprised by Eight Belles though. It's Proud Spell who is the appropriate Derby filly. Will have Larry Jones on ATR today or tomorrow to clarify, but I bet he won't commit to anything until Derby-Oaks Week.

Story on ESPN says Eight Belles is headed for the Oaks.
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:31 PM
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As of today, who in the top 20 will not be running in the Derby?

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Old 04-07-2008, 03:33 PM
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:34 PM
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Are the connections of Proud Spell and Eight Bells considering the Derby?
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:35 PM
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Are the connections of Proud Spell and Eight Bells considering the Derby?
My guess is one of them winds up in the starting gate based on how eager Porter seems to be to have a Derby starter.
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:51 PM
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Story on ESPN says Eight Belles is headed for the Oaks.
she should, her last few races were vs small groups, her going against 20 in the derby would be a disaster in my opinion, and she'd be overbet. I think proud spell is the one, battle tested, she could fire big vs the boys.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:16 PM
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Story on ESPN says Eight Belles is headed for the Oaks.
Let's hope so!
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Adriano is very unlikely, last I read.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:30 PM
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Maybe Todd Pletcher
Would be pretty funny but I'm still hoping Cowboy Cal wins the Blue Grass so people burn money on him come Derby Day.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:36 PM
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I wish I had a wager on Pletcher not having a starter. I wonder what those odds would have been back in Jan.
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