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Old 03-30-2008, 02:22 PM
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Smooth Air was 7 1/2 lengths clear of the third place finisher. He rallied from sixth, which was the best finish of horses closest to the pace top to bottom. The second, third, fourth and fifth-place horses early could manage only seventh or worse.

Perfect trip or not, he ran his race, which was good enough for a solid second. If people want to label such performances as "suck-up" I can rattle off a massive list of good suck-up horses who won some pretty big races.
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Old 03-30-2008, 02:35 PM
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What circumstances make you think he cannot repeat his effort in the Derby?
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Old 03-30-2008, 02:36 PM
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Smooth Air (Smooth Jazz) made the race yesterday. Otherwise you would have had a huge blowout. What's not to like about Smooth Jazz and his $3,000 stud fee ? Now based in NY.

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Old 03-30-2008, 03:53 PM
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Look, I was not trying to take anything away from the horse, so people can relax. I have said from the get go that the horse ran a good race, I just doubt he can do it in the Derby. We'll see.
i have more doubts about big brown..
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Old 03-30-2008, 04:10 PM
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While I don't think Smooth Air sucked up and his performance was OK even considering that he was one of the ones who benefited from the draw...

He clearly doesn't have a prayer in the Ky Derby...even this years Ky Derby!

However, he's earned his way in...and I don't have any problems with him running. He's won races wire-to-wire at 5.5 furlongs, and can at least stay on at distances up to 9 furlongs when taken off the pace.
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Old 03-30-2008, 04:56 PM
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Big Brown and War Pass could fry each other on the lead in the Derby so I'm looking for a horse just off the pace.
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Old 03-30-2008, 05:07 PM
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Didn't this come up last week? Does every horse that is 2nd to an impressive winner have to be a suck up?
I'm confused.

Which prior horse or race are you talking about?
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Old 03-30-2008, 05:09 PM
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I'm confused.

Which prior horse or race are you talking about?
You're baiting someone to mention that horse that was 2nd in the Rebel Stakes so that you can recount, for the millionth time, how you had the exacta, arent' you?
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Old 03-30-2008, 05:17 PM
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Obviously.

Though King's Silver Son is a giant piece of crap of Anak Nakal proportions, I was more hoping it would lead to someone arguing that he didn't suck up in that race and is somehow an OK horse.

I am also wondering what happened to all of those people who made such a big deal with the painfully obvious that Majestic Warrior's Hopeful win was a suckup and he was a phony.

I was kind of fishing for some of those people to re emerge and take up the fight for KSS.

Thanks for spoiling my fun.
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Old 03-30-2008, 05:30 PM
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I am also wondering what happened to all of those people who made such a big deal when I stated the painfully obvious that Majestic Warrior's Hopeful win was a suckup and he was a phony.
I'm keeping MW on my radar. I hated his Hopeful win, but got suckered into betting him yesterday because of his early bid/stop run in the LA Derby (which I took to mean he was "short"--as opposed to a late-running sprinter). He's probably a goat, but if one of these nags wins the first two legs of the TC I'm pinning my hopes that he's this year's Lemon Drop Kid or Birdstone or what-have-you.
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Old 03-30-2008, 06:04 PM
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I don't know man...

A horse like Pyro could be an extremely likely and big margin winner of the Belmont Stakes.

Especially if Asmussen doesn't try and tweak his training a little to put more speed into him right before the Derby.
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Old 03-30-2008, 06:19 PM
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The Equibase chart comments lists Hey Byrn as being bumped hard at the start.

I don't see the bump.
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Old 03-30-2008, 07:07 PM
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You can see it better on the head-on.

He and Elisyum Fields bumped into each other pretty hard and a little squeezing went on.

Not exactly the kind of start you want to have when drawn out there.

Here's a bit of a blurry pic of about where it happened. He's in pink and EF is wearing the white blinks.




Elisyum Fields was like a pinball between those two horses.
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Old 03-30-2008, 07:13 PM
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I'm keeping MW on my radar. I hated his Hopeful win, but got suckered into betting him yesterday because of his early bid/stop run in the LA Derby (which I took to mean he was "short"--as opposed to a late-running sprinter). He's probably a goat, but if one of these nags wins the first two legs of the TC I'm pinning my hopes that he's this year's Lemon Drop Kid or Birdstone or what-have-you.
Of the three TC races MW has the least chance to win the Belmont. Not that he has any chance to win the other two.
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Old 03-30-2008, 07:38 PM
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Looks more like the grassy knowel to me. Is that Texas?

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You can see it better on the head-on.

He and Elisyum Fields bumped into each other pretty hard and a little squeezing went on.

Not exactly the kind of start you want to have when drawn out there.

Here's a bit of a blurry pic of about where it happened. He's in pink and EF is wearing the white blinks.




Elisyum Fields was like a pinball between those two horses.
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:43 PM
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Of the three TC races MW has the least chance to win the Belmont. Not that he has any chance to win the other two.
Because he's a late running sprinter, right?
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Old 03-31-2008, 12:25 PM
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Big Brown sure was hammered in the exactas. I had Smooth Air wheeled on top and bottom just because he looked like he'd at least hang around for the distance based on the long workouts. I made all of $12 for my effort. My fault for leaving the OTB before I could see the pools I guess.
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Old 03-31-2008, 12:53 PM
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Because he's a late running sprinter, right?
And because he's just not very good
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