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Old 05-18-2008, 07:12 PM
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Usually one of the first things I do to pad my arguement is quote something Robbie Albarado said. Hard to dispute a word he says.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:15 PM
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Congratulations.. you just bought your ticket out of here for insulting yet another person who works inside the industry and has more credibility here than you... Those that can't interract with others to the standards set here can ply their nonsense elsewhere...

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Old 05-18-2008, 07:17 PM
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I was not about to subject 1,000 DTers to that for the next 20 days...
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:22 PM
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I was not about to subject 1,000 DTers to that for the next 20 days...

I hope, at the very least, you sent him off with some links to other prospective homes.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:25 PM
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I hope, at the very least, you sent him off with some links to other prospective homes.











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Old 05-18-2008, 07:53 PM
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I wonder if Kent Desormeaux offered after today's 3rd at Belmont whether or not he felt Big Brown could have won any race with the kind of ride he gave Alluring Tune.

Anyone catch that gem?
What exactly happened there? From the pan shot, the inference is that he's squeezed going into the turn. From the headon, it's hard to tell whether the horse to his outside comes in or it's because the horse ahead of him, in the 2 path, backs up a bit. Frankly, it appears as if he checked needlessly.
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:27 PM
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My God dude he was at almost a crawl when passed the finish line. Kent spent more than 1/2 race looking between his legs and under his arms. Never has a horse won with such ease in the Preakness. After the race he wasn't even breathing hard, throwing his head around kicking and sqealling like a 2 year old.
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:34 PM
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Albarado should just stick to riding horses. Curlin is a yes, Street Sense a maybe, but the other two, no way
Hard Spun never faced these kind of horses. If Hard Spun were a 3 year old this year, he'd win the Triple Crown more than likely.
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:45 PM
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What exactly happened there? From the pan shot, the inference is that he's squeezed going into the turn. From the headon, it's hard to tell whether the horse to his outside comes in or it's because the horse ahead of him, in the 2 path, backs up a bit. Frankly, it appears as if he checked needlessly.

I was similarly confused and felt, generously, it was some combination thereof. What, in some ways, was worse was how Kent simply gave up and stuck the horse four or so wide and didn't even seem to try until it was too late.

I didn't bet her, and was sort of glad she lost as I had singled her in the Pick-4, pitched the 3:5 in the second, used four of the other five horses, and left the winner out.
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Hard Spun never faced these kind of horses. If Hard Spun were a 3 year old this year, he'd win the Triple Crown more than likely.
Whatever.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:17 AM
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Never has a horse won with such ease in the Preakness.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:22 AM
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when you have a minimum 10 point beyer edge on your opponents, of course its going to look easy. this is a really nice horse but he hasn't had a real test yet, and may never get one.
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:16 PM
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My God dude he was at almost a crawl when passed the finish line. Kent spent more than 1/2 race looking between his legs and under his arms. Never has a horse won with such ease in the Preakness. After the race he wasn't even breathing hard, throwing his head around kicking and sqealling like a 2 year old.
......... yeah a blind man could see that but, its obvious the people that only talk speed figs are clueless and wouldnt know a great horse if it kicked them in the teeth.
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:23 PM
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......... yeah a blind man could see that but, its obvious the people that only talk speed figs are clueless and wouldnt know a great horse if it kicked them in the teeth.
This is much too obvious and is not really at the root of the issue. It figures that those that can only interpret the game in terms of figures, and thus have no intuitive grasp of it, would be clueless. They just learned the game the wrong way and haven't adjusted. That's fine.
But how about those that know how to properly use the figures and do have the intuitive grasp of the game? Shouldn't they, at least, be able to properly gauge the ability of this horse? Why is the focus, even from them, on the lack of competition, rather than the unique things this horse is able to do?

This is not meant to be critical and is more a result of disappointment than anything else.
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:35 PM
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This is much too obvious and is not really at the root of the issue. It figures that those that can only interpret the game in terms of figures, and thus have no intuitive grasp of it, would be clueless. They just learned the game the wrong way and haven't adjusted. That's fine.
But how about those that know how to properly use the figures and do have the intuitive grasp of the game? Shouldn't they, at least, be able to properly gauge the ability of this horse? Why is the focus, even from them, on the lack of competition, rather than the unique things this horse is able to do?

This is not meant to be critical and is more a result of disappointment than anything else.
.....its not that, its the flavor of the times to rip every horse thats " great " i have seen it here and at espn a few years ago.... watch, if for some miracle B.B won in elmont then the travers AND won the b cup. it wouldnt be because he is exceptional it would be " the field in the travers was a joke" and " curlin hated the santa anita surface "
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