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Old 06-11-2008, 01:07 PM
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the truth. you know what i'm saying . these kids and others taking bets on if he'll win by 10. the race is a forgone conclusion and all the rest of the bs on here. which is why i had the pic 3
You did? I didn't see it posted in the selections thread. All I saw was the work of a professional redboarder. You picked the winners of the first two legs but absolutely no mention of Da' Tara. And really you didn't have any opinion of Big Brown until after the race.

Pretty weak stuff.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:09 PM
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This is strictly an opinion kind of question. Do you personally think that Dutrow, Desormeaux or anyone form IEAH was that confident? How could they be, with the foot issue?
I'd say Dutrow and IEAH thought:

1/3 chance they believed he was unbeatable no matter what.
1/3 chance they thought the foot was no problem, leaving all the other kinds of reasons that led to the last 10 Derby-Preakness winners losing the race.
1/3 chance they thought they were in big trouble for reasons known and unknown to others.

Thing is, I doubt they'd have shared anything negative with the jockey. I just thought Desormeaux didn't ride like he thought he was on the far best horse.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:10 PM
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There are some 'big names in the industry' posting here? Not as big as some of the experts that do the pre-race commentary, right?
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:16 PM
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OK.. Had enough... Had to edit this thread a piece... Stay to topic and away from the personality profiling/analysis please. Those that dislike each know who they are and should be able to avoid each other.
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Oh no!! There aren't enough threads about Big Brown!! Don't do it, boss!!!
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:56 PM
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Did starter on track and photo stand add to Big Brown's early agitation?


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Old 06-11-2008, 02:57 PM
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i tend to agree with dick on this one.... and i am a kent lover. but i said before the race, why risk getting in any trouble ? why not go straight to the top, and he did not, and he got in trouble.
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and the witch hunt continues....... What's next, he was distracted by Quantas 747 landing at JFK?
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and the witch hunt continues....... What's next, he was distracted by Quantas 747 landing at JFK?
This is old news actually. Ed Fontaine of the Post had the photo Sunday in the paper and there was early speculation that the starter in white pants on the track and the 15' camera stand both contributed to the colt's early edginess.
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Yeah, why does that dude need to be there?
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:31 PM
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Yeah, why does that dude need to be there?
If I was that dude, I wouldn't want to be there
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:38 PM
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Yeah, why does that dude need to be there?

yeah man he looks like he's right in Browns path... doesnt make sense to me at all.
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:50 PM
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Maybe I'm wrong, but this isn't the first time the starter has stood close to the horses. It happens all the time. Granted, this starter seems further down past the gate then normal, but are the connections serious with the excuses?
Reaction to the photo didn't come from connections. It came from press when they saw it. And the starter is usually on the other side of the rail and closer up. It's not just him either. The tower of photographers is right there too and it's been suggested that it caught his eye too.
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If you look really closely, I'm in the middle right portion of the crowd in that picture. Can you see me?
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:59 PM
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Did starter on track and photo stand add to Big Brown's early agitation?


Looks like a nice ad for West Point TB...
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:35 PM
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Reaction to the photo didn't come from connections. It came from press when they saw it. And the starter is usually on the other side of the rail and closer up. It's not just him either. The tower of photographers is right there too and it's been suggested that it caught his eye too.
The starter at NYRA is always on the track not inside the rail. Started by Bob Duncan who thought he could see the field better from that vantage point. Most starters are on a little platform inside the rail.
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:46 PM
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The reason is the horse was simply not in shape or ready for this race. after setting around 3 weeks and foot problems, then a light work-out is like trying to play full-court basketball after laying on the couch for a week. kent had a rank horse for the moment they brought him over from barn. he should have never run in this race period.
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:31 PM
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ny times and espn report dutrow and desormeaux "back on target" and KD retains mount- also Big Brown's monthly winstrol will resume.
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