"The fundamentals of our economy are strong"

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by GBBob

you'll have Schlitz and like it...after the first 9 you'll never know the difference

I am not sure I can drink that elitist stuff

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

McCains comments were directed at the American workers, whom McCain says are the backbone of the economy, and that the American workers are productive and resilient. McCain knows there are huge problems on Wall Street (which if anyone says is GW's fault I think I'd have to put you on Permanent IGGY cause cant let you people dumb me down).

Dala is twisting his words just as ArlJim twisted Obama's "my Muslim faith" words. and how people twisted Obama's Lipstick on Pig reference.

Now what Biden says.. comparing paying more taxes to being patriotic. I cant give an excuse on that its just plain dumb.

Antitrust, McCain sure as hell was not referring to the American workers when he asserted that the fundamentals of the U.S. economy were strong. That was his so-so attempt to explain away his gaffe. Don't you hate it when pols fall back on the ole' "U.S. workers are the hardest working and most ingenius" crap when they're scrambling for cover

[Mike]

And, McCain's Spain gaffe ? Is he getting feeble minded?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Mike

And, McCain's Spain gaffe ? Is he getting feeble minded?

Getting? For all the things McCain is (many of which are admirable), intelligent is not one of them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

We are in a huge deficit and need to reduce it. That means taking in more money and spending less. The best way to do that is by rolling back Bush's tax cut to the wealthy which has done nothing but hurt the economy. So paying more taxes helps reduce the deficit and in turn make the American dollar worth more. Isn't helping your country the patriotic thing to do?

Sometimes I wonder if people even understand the tax structure in this country. I can't believe how many times I've read someone say that now they will pay 50 to 60% of their income on taxes. It's a graduated tax system. On the first $250,000 they will get charged the exact same amount of taxes as people making $249,999. It is only the income over $249,999 that will get taxed at a higher rate and it isn't 50 or 60%.

neither candidates plan reduces the deficit. paying more taxes generally results in the govt spending more money they haven't got--sort of like most people.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's pretty funny when McCain says things that even the batshit crazy Republicans on here can't defend.

Good thing we have people like Jim around to remind us about lipstick and pigs. That's clearly more relevant to who would better serve the American people than unimaginably stupid quotes like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

Lori, the richest of the rich have gotten a complete free ride under Bush, and enough's enough. Making wealthy people wealthier is the only thing the Bush administration has consistently stood for, and look at where we are economically. The average salary in America has gone down over $2,000. Guess not enough is "trickling down," eh? Cry me a river about billionaires having to pay an extra couple percent more in taxes, we need an administration that has the average American's interests in mind foremost.

from fact check:

Obama said "average family income" went down $2,000 under Bush, which isn't correct. An aide said he was really talking only about "working" families and not retired couples. And – math teachers, please note – he meant median (or midpoint) and not really the mean or average. Median family income actually has inched up slightly under Bush

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by Danzig

from fact check:

Obama said "average family income" went down $2,000 under Bush, which isn't correct. An aide said he was really talking only about "working" families and not retired couples. And – math teachers, please note – he meant median (or midpoint) and not really the mean or average. Median family income actually has inched up slightly under Bush

extremely important to note though that the price of mooseburgers have held steady the past 8 years

[Danzig]

i remember when people said a guy from arkansas couldn't be a good president...he was from arkinsaw for crying out loud. where sarah palin is from, and how big a population there is in alaska, has nothing to do with whether she'd make a good vp or not. or a good president for that matter, if it came to that.
youth, inexperience-now those might keep her from succeeding.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Dala is twisting his words just as ArlJim twisted Obama's "my Muslim faith" words. and how people twisted Obama's Lipstick on Pig reference.

how did i twist his words? i quoted what he said and asked why is this guy considered to be so bright if he gets his religion wrong.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's pretty funny when McCain says things that even the batshit crazy Republicans on here can't defend.

Good thing we have people like Jim around to remind us about lipstick and pigs. That's clearly more relevant to who would better serve the American people than unimaginably stupid quotes like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

i'm no economic expert, but i don't think the statement that the fundamentals are strong is outrageous. we do have strong fundamentals. do we have a big issues facing us now, yes.
poor choice of words by McCain on black monday, certainly.

speaking of who would serve the American people better, McCain was a leader trying to get Fannie/Freddie reformed for some time. where was Obama? well he was so busy lining his pockets with lobbyist money from Fannie/Freddie, he didn't have time to get involved or to have an opinion. of course he counts the disgraced leaders of these institutions as close advisors, what a shocker.

on the bright side, I understand that any day BO might actually take a stand on the AIG bailout, so far his position is that he isn't second guessing the decision, but not supporting it either. thats like one of his famous "present" votes. first he has to learn that the name of the company is American International Group, and not American Insurance Group.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Most of my stuff is a set up. Like I said, I'm just curious what your thoughts are about it.

Well, I think it was gonna be a hell of a Presidency, and then alot of things happened that were beyond Bushs' control. Before you start foaming at the mouth, I'm not too happy with Republicans either. It seems since Bubba ran the country, everything,every idea, every thought has to be 'floated out there' to see if it flies. Republicans are doing the same thing, but don't have the inward courage they used to, back in the day. Everything is gray now, which I think is wrong, and potentially Dangerous to this society. Bush is a nice guy,I think. I'd love to visit the guy on his ranch with his wife, just kickin back. Pretty much every administration has its' Bert Lances or Travelgates and the like....pretty much none like Bubbas' though. His brilliant 10.6 bil surplus projection that the media scarfed up like the dogs they are was borne on the backs of the Intelligence and Defense Budgets that were decimated for the future. Why would Bubba care about those Depts?..he didn't pay attention to them when they were needed...so screw the future,huh? With what he let get away to the Chinese and others,who needs security?
Anyway, I remember hoping that Hildebeast would somehow not get the nomination, cuz she has too much baggage, and lo and behold Nobama the empty suit is posed(I mean poised) start his pilgrimage to 'rule the world' now,
but I don't think he'll get the office. Surely someone will notice that the Emperor has no clothes(and no original thoughts) So that's it for this edition..not as funny as Scavs adventures for the last few days, but reality nonetheless

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i'm no economic expert, but i don't think the statement that the fundamentals are strong is outrageous. we do have strong fundamentals. do we have a big issues facing us now, yes.
poor choice of words by McCain on black monday, certainly.

speaking of who would serve the American people better, McCain was a leader trying to get Fannie/Freddie reformed for some time. where was Obama? well he was so busy lining his pockets with lobbyist money from Fannie/Freddie, he didn't have time to get involved or to have an opinion. of course he counts the disgraced leaders of these institutions as close advisors, what a shocker.

on the bright side, I understand that any day BO might actually take a stand on the AIG bailout, so far his position is that he isn't second guessing the decision, but not supporting it either. thats like one of his famous "present" votes. first he has to learn that the name of the company is American International Group, and not American Insurance Group.

You mean he's going to be PRESENT,right?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

how did i twist his words? i quoted what he said and asked why is this guy considered to be so bright if he gets his religion wrong.

He was TIRED,dammit!

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

McCains comments were directed at the American workers, whom McCain says are the backbone of the economy, and that the American workers are productive and resilient. McCain knows there are huge problems on Wall Street (which if anyone says is GW's fault I think I'd have to put you on Permanent IGGY cause cant let you people dumb me down).

Dala is twisting his words just as ArlJim twisted Obama's "my Muslim faith" words. and how people twisted Obama's Lipstick on Pig reference.

Now what Biden says.. comparing paying more taxes to being patriotic. I cant give an excuse on that its just plain dumb.

No one is twisting anything. You are just falling for spin. Here is another speech about "fundamentals" and you tell me if that is what he meant. And if he did indeed mean the "working people" then it would be the first usage of that phrase in that context EVER:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBVIA...eature=related

Stop walking the party line. Whether he meant it or not, it was a dumb thing to say.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i'm no economic expert, but i don't think the statement that the fundamentals are strong is outrageous. we do have strong fundamentals. do we have a big issues facing us now, yes.
poor choice of words by McCain on black monday, certainly.

speaking of who would serve the American people better, McCain was a leader trying to get Fannie/Freddie reformed for some time. where was Obama? well he was so busy lining his pockets with lobbyist money from Fannie/Freddie, he didn't have time to get involved or to have an opinion. of course he counts the disgraced leaders of these institutions as close advisors, what a shocker.

on the bright side, I understand that any day BO might actually take a stand on the AIG bailout, so far his position is that he isn't second guessing the decision, but not supporting it either. thats like one of his famous "present" votes. first he has to learn that the name of the company is American International Group, and not American Insurance Group.

Are you some kind of wingnut? We are in this spot largely because of deregulation of wall st and who was the king of that? Yes, JOHN MCCAIN.

You think a guy that would say this would be best to lead us during these economic times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ1OB2iLxcY

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

He was TIRED,dammit!

Get the fucl< off his back..his economic policies are clear damn it!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8



This is now more than the election of a President..it is a battle of Youtube videos..and I for one believe that this is a battle we can not afford to lose!

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Get the fucl< off his back..his economic policies are clear damn it!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8



This is now more than the election of a President..it is a battle of Youtube videos..and I for one believe that this is a battle we can not afford to lose!

You certainly couldnt win a battle of policies or substance.

Dont you find it interesting that McCain is suddenly touted as the regulation king. Do you believe this?

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You certainly couldnt win a battle of policies or substance.

Dont you find it interesting that McCain is suddenly touted as the regulation king. Do you believe this?

dalakhani this is what I find interesting...

No one and I mean no wants to take responsibility for this mess on either side and to me this is the true crime in all of this...

If we actually had some leadership anywhere we would see it and know it..blaming each other isn't leadership...

Believe it or not George W is at this moment in time showing more leadership than anybody - and he ain't doing sh^t!

Shame on all of us for putting up with this crap - I say we have a resolution that throws them all out and we start from scratch...

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by geeker2

dalakhani this is what I find interesting...

No one and I mean no wants to take responsibility for this mess on either side and to me this is the true crime in all of this...

If we actually had some leadership anywhere we would see it and know it..blaming each other isn't leadership...

Believe it or not George W is at this moment in time showing more leadership than anybody - and he ain't doing sh^t!

Shame on all of us for putting up with this crap - I say we have a resolution that throws them all out and we start from scratch...

Well said.

The sad part is either one of these guys is a one term prez...no matter how good they do.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Well said.

The sad part is either one of these guys is a one term prez...no matter how good they do.