obama does the moonwalk

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i meant that regarding him wanting the economy to be the first priority, and that his other stuff will have to wait. he also recognizes that our federal govt cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, so he can't expect them to tackle more than one issue at a time.

how the hell did we become the lone superpower?!

"Tear down this wall."

Ronald Reagan

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

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"Tear down this wall."

Ronald Reagan

no, i'm just referring to how how govt works....doesn't seem terribly able. but i guess it's still better than anyone else's....

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, i'm just referring to how how govt works....doesn't seem terribly able. but i guess it's still better than anyone else's....

Sorry I was explaining how we were the lone super power but then down the stretch 'here comes China'. IMO They're bred for distances yet encountered.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah but in your reality there were WMD's in Iraq.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...yellowcake.htm


and in my reality
giving aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of war is treason

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...yellowcake.htm


and in my reality
giving aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of war is treason

"Clearly, putting a 'Mission Accomplished' [banner] on an aircraft carrier was a mistake," Bush said about how his administration handled the fall of Baghdad to U.S. troops. "It sent the wrong message."

He termed other aspects of the U.S. invasion of Iraq "disappointments," including the failure to find weapons of mass destruction and the treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison.

this man must be guilty of treason.

[hi_im_god]

seriously ae, the treason card?

in an internet debate?

where your team captain already threw in the towel and said "game over"?

i'd throw in the "i was been drinking when i posted that" card now if i were you.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you're the one going on and on about how he's a failure (and he hasn't even been sworn in yet) and I'M the cynic?!?! hilarity, thy name is timmi.

you're putting words in my mouth....I didn't say he was a failure.
I didn't write the article, I just brought it to your attention.
The medias had a love-fest with this guy from the beginning. You should try grasping the context of the message rather a word, followed by a knee-jerk reaction.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Thanks Kev, although the first paragraph clearly explains why he there might be the delay.

Confronted by the worst financial crisis in generations, President-elect Barack Obama and his Democratic allies in Congress are preparing to delay some of the promises he made on the campaign trail to avoid political distractions and focus on reversing the economic slide.

Now, unless I can't read, Obama isn't saying what Dimmy was passing off as what he said, but no surprise there. Still waiting Dimmy.

2 different articles,fool!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

you're putting words in my mouth....I didn't say he was a failure. I didn't write the article, I just brought it to your attention.
The medias had a love-fest with this guy from the beginning. You should try grasping the context of the message rather a word, followed by a knee-jerk reaction.

"My exact point is that he raised the expectations so high with campaign rhetoric that it will be impossible to achieve what he promised."


apparently, i condensed what i was reading from you into one word-failure. but you didn't say he was one? but you did write the above....i would think, by reading that, you were suggesting he will fail.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

"My exact point is that he raised the expectations so high with campaign rhetoric that it will be impossible to achieve what he promised."


apparently, i condensed what i was reading from you into one word-failure. but you didn't say he was one? but you did write the above....i would think, by reading that, you were suggesting he will fail.

What I'm saying is that he either knew his positions were untenable, or had bad info. Shortly after his election, he and the media said he'd need 2 terms to fix the problems. Standard Demcratic response....hell, I didn't know...
that is not a change.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

What I'm saying is that he either knew his positions were untenable, or had bad info. Shortly after his election, he and the media said he'd need 2 terms to fix the problems. Standard Demcratic response....hell, I didn't know...
that is not a change.

it was shortly before the end of the presidential race that the poo hit the fan. the 'stimulus' package they pushed thru back last spring only delayed the inevitable. when the economy started tanking, he started talking about the realities of the situation, rather than what he wanted to push thru-it was back last summer that he first said he didn't see raising cap gains taxes as happening.
i know where i work, i make plans-and hell, everything works out perfect on paper. but you also have to be able to handle things that come up spur of the moment, you have to roll with the punches-either that, or you're denying what's right in your face. it's no surprise to me that he is saying economy FIRST. you're taking that to mean economy only.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You really are slow aren't you? I realize they are 2 different articles. You have yet to show any proof of what you were saying. Because it never happened.

What is so difficult to grasp here? Obama is saying some of the things he said he was going to do in his campaign are being pushed back because he is walking into a financial crisis. I'm not sure if you noticed the crisis, but it's bad Dimmy. So bad that it should be the number one focus of whatever President is taking office. Now, if McCain had won, and said the same thing Obama did, it's a non issue to you. Get over it already.

i think you're right on that.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You ignored this the first time it was posted, so I'll do it again.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/yellowcake.asp

Today, President Bush in his press conference admitted that one of his many mistakes during his presidency was the fact that they never found any WMD's in Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/...ion=cnn_latest

From the article:

"Clearly, putting a 'Mission Accomplished' [banner] on an aircraft carrier was a mistake," Bush said about how his administration handled the fall of Baghdad to U.S. troops. "It sent the wrong message."

He termed other aspects of the U.S. invasion of Iraq "disappointments," including the failure to find weapons of mass destruction and the treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison.

ignore or just didn't bother to follow along

in the truth or fiction version.. the story claims that Bush says none were found to help get the WMD out of the country so they don't have to fight over them. or something like that.

every person that gave comfort and aid to the enemy at a time of war should be put up against the wall and shot

There goes Nancy, Dick and Jack

[hi_im_god]

you're like one of those ww2 japanese soldiers that were still living off the land in the philipine jungle through the 70's

you have too much pride to surrender and no one told you the battle was over.

your emperor surrendered. so did all his general's. but you fight on.

i just can't help myself. a part of me hopes you beat that windmill. it's just so sad, otherwise.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think you're right on that.

McCain was trying to hold it all together
Obama promised a new beginning
I hope it works out OK for the country.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

McCain was trying to hold it all together
Obama promised a new beginning
I hope it works out OK for the country.

i don't think you hope it works out ok. i think you want him to fall flat on his face, so you can start more threads like this one. the guy basically says our economy is the first, last and only priority right now, and you start a thread talking about how he's already backtracking on his promises.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think you hope it works out ok. i think you want him to fall flat on his face, so you can start more threads like this one. the guy basically says our economy is the first, last and only priority right now, and you start a thread talking about how he's already backtracking on his promises.

You can feel how you like, but there's articles galore about Obamas' missteps
by liberal publications and sites,and legislators.

If he fell on his face , the country will suffer more damage...and I don't want that.

....stay tuned,Ziggy!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

You can feel how you like, but there's articles galore about Obamas' misstepsby liberal publications and sites,and legislators.

If he fell on his face , the country will suffer more damage...and I don't want that.

....stay tuned,Ziggy!

he's not even president yet.

gimme a break timmi. you have your agenda, everyone knows it.

[Danzig]

if mccain had won, and all these articles been about him and putting parts of his agenda on hold, timmi would be on here defending him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You can feel how you like, but there's articles galore about Obamas' missteps
by liberal publications and sites,and legislators.

If he falls on his face , the country will suffer more damage...and he doesn't want that.

it's funny- a lot of folks probably do want him to fail, just so they can say 'i told you so'-and they'd probably be willing to see this country go further in the wrong direction, just so they could say that. goodness knows the bigger picture doesn't matter....as long as a person is proven correct.