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02-07-2009, 12:28 AM
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Guess it didn't work using crashes to show the razor-edge of danger a jockey walks on every single race. Too distracting to viewers worrying rather about the animal involved.
Who was the race writer that wrote, a couple years ago, that nobody should be allowed through a racetrack turnstile unless they were carrying $200 to drop at the windows that day? Anybody remember that, I'd like to re-read it.
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02-07-2009, 12:44 AM
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I wonder if Santa Anita said they could only film if they agreed not to show spills where the horse brokedown and had to be euthanized? Someone might've had the sense to bar that. I mean it's not like Animal Planet's entitled to show it, SA's private and AP's not a news channel.
About NASCAR and the wrecks, I don't think it's like hockey where people get excited about fights. When there's a wreck, a lot of fans get upset cuz if their driver isn't in it, maybe his chances got compromised by it. Believe me a lot of them know where he needs to finish to not lose a spot in the points system and if some loser knocks them out of it by wrecking, the fans swear a blood oath to hate them for life.
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02-07-2009, 12:49 AM
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As a queen of lobbying against PETA and almost any animal RIGHTS (please note key word rights, I absolutely support animal welfare)...I truly thought I would hate this show, especially after the commercials.
However I am quite pleasantly surpised with the outcome. Every horse that fell, got up and ran away. I thought this was going to be bunny huggers haven(bunny huggers=animal rights nuts)...to advocate yet another agenda to bring about the end of horse racing. It wasn't. I have to disagree that this was a disparging show on the industry, breathing a great sigh of relief....maybe from an insiders view it was lacking and may not attract people to come to watch and bet. But it did not show as it a cruel and inhumane sport. I am relieved after watching the first 2 episodes, we shall see at it develops, but it seems the concentration is really on the jockeys and not horses breaking down. Unfortunately there are no politcal groups that reap millions of dollars on the exploitation of humans, just animals..so the drama of jocks being hurt just doesn't create an agenda for the animal rights nuts.
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02-07-2009, 12:57 AM
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It would be fun to beat the casinos silly as a cheat ... I love watching the breaking vegas shows when they're on.
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02-07-2009, 01:16 AM
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let's stick to the show here people
what i learned this week: mike smith looks like he's 65 chantel is hotter then i previously thought kayla stra is fighting an uphill battle, and her agent kind skeeves me out joe talamo is really only 18, and has a cool accent aaron gryder ............ i had no clue go go was soo cocky where did jeff mullins' mullet go? i think its gonna be a goo show -bt-
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02-07-2009, 02:45 AM
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Chantel isn't that hot.....
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02-07-2009, 02:54 AM
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Kayla Stra is ten times hotter
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02-07-2009, 07:50 AM
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Far TOO many commercials for me. Though love seeing Gomez as a jag. He must have changed or refused to be on the show as he was a decent guy in Chicago. Couple inaccuracies noted: Oak Tree meet more important than Del Mar and Saratoga and gate handlers 2nd most dangerous job on the track? Did anyone let them know there are excercise riders who are not jockeys are out every morning trying everything from schooling babies at the gate to seeing how a horse will react to a whip for the first time? And I wouldn't want Kayla walking my dog.
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02-07-2009, 07:53 AM
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I didn't watch the whole thing, but thought it was a bit ridiculous having Denman recreate a call at the Fair as if the race was just Gryder vs Talamo. At least I assume it was dubbed in, as I have never heard a race called that way.
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02-07-2009, 07:57 AM
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I certainly never intended to lead you guys to believe that I thought, or was promoting the idea, that breakdowns were a good thing to watch and/or that people loved seeing horses euthanized. All I was trying to say is that I think these breakdowns are not what's turning anyone away from the game. Yes, the crashes are sometimes spectacular looking. If seeing that in a five second preview gets anyone to tune in and be exposed to the game that we are all on board with and love, then how is that a bad thing? I haven't seen the show yet, but I'm sure it's not a Fox "When Good Times Go Bad"-type hack job.
As for fantasy sports players being nerds obsessed with stats and more likely to gamble on poker than horse racing, that's the most asinine statement I think I've ever read anywhere. What do you think handicapping a horse race involves? Past performances, or flowery terminology for "statistics," and attempting to forecast what a horse will do based on them. It's exactly like fantasy sports except you don't have to wait until the end of the week to see if your team wins. You have to wait about two minutes. And the reason poker is so popular is because someone had the good sense to think outside the box and educate potential fans/players during televised events and market its biggest stars. How is Phil Hellmouth more interesting than Bob Baffert?
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02-07-2009, 07:58 AM
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I thought the show was very good. Making the jockeys and horses more personal only adds to the interest in the sport. If I was at Santa Anita today I would have a new appreciation if I were to see Mike Smith, Chantel, Joe Talamo, Zenyata, etc.
The more you know about their lives, the more connected to the sport. Heck, just look what DT Stables has done for so many of us that just watched and bet races from the stands. Getting inside the sport has greatly enhanced the pleasure and love of the sport. This is what this show can do. In the same way American Idol (whether you like it or not) takes unknowns and over the season makes raving fans for many of them, Jockeys in a small way can do similar. Will it produce new fans? Maybe, but I think it will move a small segment of the population, whether they be new or exisiting players, closer to the sport and not away. Too bad the % of people watching the show was most likely very small. I wonder how many did see it and what the reaction was. Spyder
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02-07-2009, 07:59 AM
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02-07-2009, 08:01 AM
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Yea, I agree with that. I wish they would make the calls real instead of only focused on the people in the show. That I did not like.
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02-07-2009, 08:09 AM
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we enjoyed it and look forward to next week. it could do without the horses hitting the ground but they all walked away.
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02-07-2009, 08:38 AM
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How many races did they record before they got Corey getting hurt? or was that re-created like the horse calls? I'm thinking people that are fans of the sport will get very little insight. I think reality TV shows suck.
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02-07-2009, 08:43 AM
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i talk up horse racing all the time-i'm determined to increase the # of visitors as much as possible. as for betting-i enjoy the mental exercise of trying to find a winner, and i hope to get better at it.
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02-07-2009, 08:54 AM
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02-07-2009, 08:56 AM
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i didn't care for the atmosphere at the casino either. lights, bells and whistles...just seemed mindless. you just sit there and hit buttons. not my thing at all.
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