A belated thanks from across the pond...

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's not "dissent" to root for your country to fail you f.ucking dumbass.

Children,children.....the man said he hoped that Obamas socialist policies failed....not the countrys'! DOH!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Children,children.....the man said he hoped that Obamas socialist policies failed....not the countrys'! DOH!

1. No he didn't. He didn't say anything like that.

2. I know I'll regret this, but what socialist policies are we referring to?

[Honu]

I think one of his first policies like sending my tax dollars to other countries to pay for abortions is bogus. I mean WTF???????

[Honu]

No comment ???? wow it suprises me that no one has anything to say.

[magic_idol]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Truth be told, I'm a staunch conservative, but now that Obama is in office, I wish him the best of luck. Just makes me a little weary when everyone and their mother from other countries actually likes America's choice of President. Guess I've grown accustomed to being hated and feel more comfortable that way.

It's Ok we still Hate that Crazy Clinton Lady

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Honu

No comment ???? wow it suprises me that no one has anything to say.

You didn't leave a specific link(I guess you're talking about easing the restrictions on funding of groups that provide or promote abortions.) You lost this fight. Just like Dems lost the fight to keep us from staying in Iraq until 4k were killed.

What are we gunna say? We voted, and the openly pro-choice
guy won. Look around you. You're in California. The state is bankrupt. We all know a good reason why that is. We can't afford to take care of all the needs of illegal immigrants that come up here and breed like rabbits. Doesn't help them, and it doesn't help the citizens already here. I'm for whatever it takes to get these people to have the appropriate number of kids to fit their means.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The whole "mainstream media is liberal," "mainstream media is conservative" line of thinking is lazy, paranoid and moronic. The media is too large and amorphous to lean one way. If they do lean one way, it's toward whatever gets the best ratings/readership/listeners. For a while, the country as a whole leaned more conservative, so the media generally leaned in that direction too (let Bush slide on monumental screwups). Now that the country has shifted more toward the Democrats, the media is going nuts for Obama and MSNBC has become less bashful about its slant, as Fox News did during the early Bush years. I guarantee that as soon as Obama slips up, the right-wing section of the media will be heard from loud and clear once again.

That is total bs. Outside of Fox News which is decidedly conservative (with high ratings I might add) the other mainstream news channels are decidedly left. Any attempt to avoid this truth is foolhardy. The print media also leans left for the most part with exceptions to obviously cater to the other side. The ratings thing is BS as negative sells and there is always a way to spin it that way, often BASED on political leanings. Any attempt to say that the media let Bush slide on monumental screwups is laughable to say the least. The media is far more left than it is right and the sooner you realize it the more enlightened you can be.
Sometimes in life you have to concede that the reality may not be how you want it perceived but how it really is. I for the life of me cant understand why liberals deny that the majority of the mainstream media leans strongly their way? Why deny it? The evidence is so one sided that it is idiotic, paranoid and lazy to try to spin it any other way.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

You didn't leave a specific link(I guess you're talking about easing the restrictions on funding of groups that provide or promote abortions.) You lost this fight. Just like Dems lost the fight to keep us from staying in Iraq until 4k were killed.

What are we gunna say? We voted, and the openly pro-choice
guy won. Look around you. You're in California. The state is bankrupt. We all know a good reason why that is. We can't afford to take care of all the needs of illegal immigrants that come up here and breed like rabbits. Doesn't help them, and it doesn't help the citizens already here. I'm for whatever it takes to get these people to have the appropriate number of kids to fit their means.

I didnt leave a link because its all over the internet and in every news paper ,you make it sound so sweet by saying easing restrictions on abortion funding. I dont care if its abortions here or there or anywhere , I dont think my tax money should go to it . Why dont we send birth control instead ,if our country is so worried about over population , its still bogus anyway you look at it.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's not "dissent" to root for your country to fail you f.ucking dumbass.

ok, do you know who I am mocking?

I will place you on iggy so that I won't make the mistake of commenting on anything you say. You're too sensitive and full of "hope"

ok, can't add you to iggy

please add me to your iggy list

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is total bs. Outside of Fox News which is decidedly conservative (with high ratings I might add) the other mainstream news channels are decidedly left. Any attempt to avoid this truth is foolhardy. The print media also leans left for the most part with exceptions to obviously cater to the other side. The ratings thing is BS as negative sells and there is always a way to spin it that way, often BASED on political leanings. Any attempt to say that the media let Bush slide on monumental screwups is laughable to say the least. The media is far more left than it is right and the sooner you realize it the more enlightened you can be.
Sometimes in life you have to concede that the reality may not be how you want it perceived but how it really is. I for the life of me cant understand why liberals deny that the majority of the mainstream media leans strongly their way? Why deny it? The evidence is so one sided that it is idiotic, paranoid and lazy to try to spin it any other way.

well put.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Hwjb

...I know it's a bit late, but to all of you Yanks, well done on electing someone all of us can get excited about as President. I'm as cynical as they come, and the hopes that have been invested in Obama are unrealistic, but he's still an amazing human being (not just relative to his predecessor), someone who can change the landscape of our troubled world, and a man who deserves our best will. Good luck Barack, good luck America!

'We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist'. Tremendous.


Sorry for sounding a bit soppy!

A late thank you for the sentiment. A lot of nonsense has been written in this thread, but your post was fine and genuine.

--Dunbar

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is total bs. Outside of Fox News which is decidedly conservative (with high ratings I might add) the other mainstream news channels are decidedly left. Any attempt to avoid this truth is foolhardy. The print media also leans left for the most part with exceptions to obviously cater to the other side. The ratings thing is BS as negative sells and there is always a way to spin it that way, often BASED on political leanings. Any attempt to say that the media let Bush slide on monumental screwups is laughable to say the least. The media is far more left than it is right and the sooner you realize it the more enlightened you can be.
Sometimes in life you have to concede that the reality may not be how you want it perceived but how it really is. I for the life of me cant understand why liberals deny that the majority of the mainstream media leans strongly their way? Why deny it? The evidence is so one sided that it is idiotic, paranoid and lazy to try to spin it any other way.

Yo honestly, the more I read, the more imbalanced and out of touch I think you are. This sounds so paranoid and incoherent, it's scary. Let me write your response so you don't have to:

"I'm older than you, I know more people than you, I train horses, I watch baseball, your opinion is insignificant. Nyah, nyah."

Oh and Wingnut, eat me. If you weren't so ignorant, you wouldn't have to put everyone who disagrees with you on ignore.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The fawning has occurred because people are
in shock that this country could actually elect a
black man.

Now its time to get down to work. The election is
over. So lets see who attempts to make things work,
or gum up a fresh face with a different approach.

......isnt he just as much a white man

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is total bs. Outside of Fox News which is decidedly conservative (with high ratings I might add) the other mainstream news channels are decidedly left. Any attempt to avoid this truth is foolhardy. The print media also leans left for the most part with exceptions to obviously cater to the other side. The ratings thing is BS as negative sells and there is always a way to spin it that way, often BASED on political leanings. Any attempt to say that the media let Bush slide on monumental screwups is laughable to say the least. The media is far more left than it is right and the sooner you realize it the more enlightened you can be.
Sometimes in life you have to concede that the reality may not be how you want it perceived but how it really is. I for the life of me cant understand why liberals deny that the majority of the mainstream media leans strongly their way? Why deny it? The evidence is so one sided that it is idiotic, paranoid and lazy to try to spin it any other way.

You must be joking about this part.
The vast majority of the media simply went along for the ride in 2002 without ever asking the administration the tough questions about a war that a lot of intelligent people realized at the time was a terrible idea.
Only after the U.S. invasion of Iraq turned into the unquestionable disaster that it became did the majority of the media finally turn on Bush. Are the majority of reporters probably Democrats? Yeah. But for the first two years of that miserable ass-hole's administration....the media as a whole was pretty much in love with him.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is total bs. Outside of Fox News which is decidedly conservative (with high ratings I might add) the other mainstream news channels are decidedly left.

The radio stuff is mainly Grumpy Middle-aged Conservatives. Just listen to your Fox Noise. I've never understood Why Conservatives n' Progressives almost always seem more interested in the other guy's shows.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yo honestly, the more I read, the more imbalanced and out of touch I think you are. This sounds so paranoid and incoherent, it's scary. Let me write your response so you don't have to:

"I'm older than you, I know more people than you, I train horses, I watch baseball, your opinion is insignificant. Nyah, nyah."

Oh and Wingnut, eat me. If you weren't so ignorant, you wouldn't have to put everyone who disagrees with you on ignore.

That is very liberal of you. When faced with an opposing opinion lash out into personal attacks. I suppose that you are just following the template given to you by MoveOn.org. I'm sure that you feel only Fox News and the NY Post are the only outlets that aren't "fair and balanced". Why is it so hard for you to understand that the media is generally made up of people who are far more liberal on average than the country as a whole? Most journalism schools are headed by left leaning individuals and have been for a long time? Why wouldn't left leaning people, educated via left leaning institutions go on to lean left in their real world jobs?

I have lots of liberal friends. They dont take it as an insult when I call them liberals. You seem to take offense at that. Maybe if you stopped looking at the world in terms of black and white you might see that the other side occasionally has a good point and maybe, just maybe, show you something that you didn't see yourself.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by miraja2

You must be joking about this part.
The vast majority of the media simply went along for the ride in 2002 without ever asking the administration the tough questions about a war that a lot of intelligent people realized at the time was a terrible idea.
Only after the U.S. invasion of Iraq turned into the unquestionable disaster that it became did the majority of the media finally turn on Bush. Are the majority of reporters probably Democrats? Yeah. But for the first two years of that miserable ass-hole's administration....the media as a whole was pretty much in love with him.

Are you kidding? After a terrorist attack on the country you think that the media was going to go all left wing on Bush? Are you serious? Do you think editors wanted to get canned? The mood of the country was very apolitical at the time in case you have forgotten.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yo honestly, the more I read, the more imbalanced and out of touch I think you are. This sounds so paranoid and incoherent, it's scary. Let me write your response so you don't have to:

"I'm older than you, I know more people than you, I train horses, I watch baseball, your opinion is insignificant. Nyah, nyah."

Oh and Wingnut, eat me. If you weren't so ignorant, you wouldn't have to put everyone who disagrees with you on ignore.

you would be the only one I have on ignore but since I can't put a "moderator" on ignore you'll have to ignore me

ignorant maybe - to the indoctrinated

name calling is what you do when you've lost an argument
when you only think what you've been told to think.

I never did get an answer to my question - What was so amazing about Barackovich? Outside of champaigining - I know of nothing he has done.

Originally Posted by alysheba4

......isnt he just as much a white man

Not according to the man himself.

Genetically yes, culturally I think he
has correctly considered himself "black".

He clearly felt an identity crisis and did not
feel like he was as connected to this country
as others.

So I guess he is not "black" anymore based
on my foggy description.

Originally Posted by Honu

I think one of his first policies like sending my tax dollars to other countries to pay for abortions is bogus. I mean WTF???????

Bush sending your tax dollars to Africa to pay for the AIDS
crisis and Malaria probably has you upset as well. GW probably
did more than any other president in our history in addressing
these problems outside of the US. Malaria no longer is the leading
cause of death for the first time in a very long time. Bush put
lots of American money into a disease that rarely affects Americans.

You probably wont hear a whole bunch about this though.
I guess conservatives dont consider it important and liberals
dont want to consider the possibility that GW could do anything
humane outside of this country.