Islam in a nutshell

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Taliban represents Islam like the Klu Klux Klan represents Christians.

My early nomination for 'dumbest post of the year'

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

So you are saying the Klu Klux Klan was in charge of America and our legal system?

it used to be, down south. i better stop going to the track, islam is after me. oh yeah, thats right, no time for the track, i got to go to the tea party. man , i need to get a life!

[Honu]

The point is , were his parents part of the Taliban also ??? Were all the towns people who let and watched it happen Taliban also ????

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

My early nomination for 'dumbest post of the year'

It's the same damn thing
Taliban=Muslim
KKK/Joe Schleider=Christians
Westboro Baptist Church=Baptists

all guilt by association

[Honu]

KABUL (April 15) -- A group of some 1,000 Afghans swarmed a demonstration of 300 women protesting against a new conservative marriage law on Wednesday. The women were pelted with small stones as police struggled to keep the two groups apart.
The law, passed last month, says a husband can demand sex with his wife every four days unless she is ill or would be harmed by intercourse — a clause that critics say legalizes marital rape. It also regulates when and for what reasons a wife may leave her home alone. Afghans in Kabul staged rival demonstrations on Wednesday for and against a new family law, which opponents said would revive the cruel treatment of women during the Taliban era. Supporters said it would defend Islamic justice. Some women who spoke out against the law were pelted with stones.

Women's rights activists scheduled a protest Wednesday attended by mostly young women. But the group was swamped by counter-protesters — both men and women — who shouted down the women's chants.
Some picked up gravel and stones and threw them at the women, while others shouted "Death to the slaves of the Christians!" Female police held hands around the group to create a protective barrier.
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The government of President Hamid Karzai has said the Shiite family law is being reviewed by the Justice Department and will not be implemented in its current form. Governments and rights groups around the world have condemned the legislation, and President Barack Obama has labeled it "abhorrent."
Though the law would apply only to the country's Shiites — 10 to 20 percent of Afghanistan's 30 million people — it has sparked an uproar by activists who say it marks a return to Taliban-style oppression. The Taliban, who ruled Afghanistan from 1996-2001, required women to wear all-covering burqas and banned them from leaving home without a male relative.
Shiite backers of the law say that foreigners are meddling in private Afghan affairs, and Wednesday's demonstrations brought some of the emotions surrounding the debate over the law to the surface.
"You are a dog! You are not a Shiite woman!" one man shouted to a young woman in a headscarf holding aloft a banner that said "We don't want Taliban law." The woman did not shout back at the man, but told him: "This is my land and my people."
Women protesting the law said many of their supporters had been blocked by men who refused to let them join the protest. Those who did make it shouted repeatedly that they were defending human rights by defending women's rights and that the law does not reflect the views of the Shiite community.
Fourteen-year-old Masuma Hasani said her whole family had come out to protest the law — both her parents and her younger sister who she held by the arm.
"I am concerned about my future with this law," she said. "We want our rights. We don't want women to just be used."
As the back-and-forth continued, another demonstration of Shiite women who said they support the law began.
"We don't want foreigners interfering in our lives. They are the enemy of Afghanistan," said 24-year-old Mariam Sajadi.
Sajadi is engaged, and said she plans to ask her husband's permission to leave the house as put forth in the law. She said other controversial articles — such as one giving the husband the right to demand sex from his wife every fourth day — have been misinterpreted by Westerners who are anti-Islam.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Honu

KABUL (April 15) -- A group of some 1,000 Afghans swarmed a demonstration of 300 women protesting against a new conservative marriage law on Wednesday. The women were pelted with small stones as police struggled to keep the two groups apart.
The law, passed last month, says a husband can demand sex with his wife every four days unless she is ill or would be harmed by intercourse — a clause that critics say legalizes marital rape. It also regulates when and for what reasons a wife may leave her home alone. Afghans in Kabul staged rival demonstrations on Wednesday for and against a new family law, which opponents said would revive the cruel treatment of women during the Taliban era. Supporters said it would defend Islamic justice. Some women who spoke out against the law were pelted with stones.

Women's rights activists scheduled a protest Wednesday attended by mostly young women. But the group was swamped by counter-protesters — both men and women — who shouted down the women's chants.
Some picked up gravel and stones and threw them at the women, while others shouted "Death to the slaves of the Christians!" Female police held hands around the group to create a protective barrier.
Skip over this content Download the
The government of President Hamid Karzai has said the Shiite family law is being reviewed by the Justice Department and will not be implemented in its current form. Governments and rights groups around the world have condemned the legislation, and President Barack Obama has labeled it "abhorrent."
Though the law would apply only to the country's Shiites — 10 to 20 percent of Afghanistan's 30 million people — it has sparked an uproar by activists who say it marks a return to Taliban-style oppression. The Taliban, who ruled Afghanistan from 1996-2001, required women to wear all-covering burqas and banned them from leaving home without a male relative.
Shiite backers of the law say that foreigners are meddling in private Afghan affairs, and Wednesday's demonstrations brought some of the emotions surrounding the debate over the law to the surface.
"You are a dog! You are not a Shiite woman!" one man shouted to a young woman in a headscarf holding aloft a banner that said "We don't want Taliban law." The woman did not shout back at the man, but told him: "This is my land and my people."
Women protesting the law said many of their supporters had been blocked by men who refused to let them join the protest. Those who did make it shouted repeatedly that they were defending human rights by defending women's rights and that the law does not reflect the views of the Shiite community.
Fourteen-year-old Masuma Hasani said her whole family had come out to protest the law — both her parents and her younger sister who she held by the arm.
"I am concerned about my future with this law," she said. "We want our rights. We don't want women to just be used."
As the back-and-forth continued, another demonstration of Shiite women who said they support the law began.
"We don't want foreigners interfering in our lives. They are the enemy of Afghanistan," said 24-year-old Mariam Sajadi.
Sajadi is engaged, and said she plans to ask her husband's permission to leave the house as put forth in the law. She said other controversial articles — such as one giving the husband the right to demand sex from his wife every fourth day — have been misinterpreted by Westerners who are anti-Islam.

Honu..you have an agenda against Muslims...and obviously google is paying many bills from your search engine.

Since we disagree, I am curious..what do you want? Nukes dropped on them..and them women? Less taxes for Muslim women? A tea party for Muslim children of Christian women raped by Muslim men? Come on...Religion has f'ckd up this World since it started...which one is wrong??

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

So you are saying the Klu Klux Klan was in charge of America and our legal system?

So you are saying the Taliban is the official government of Afghanistan?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

My early nomination for 'dumbest post of the year'

So you think that the Taliban represents all of Islam?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

My early nomination for 'dumbest post of the year'

Because you didn't understand the point?

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Honu..you have an agenda against Muslims...and obviously google is paying many bills from your search engine.

Since we disagree, I am curious..what do you want? Nukes dropped on them..and them women? Less taxes for Muslim women? A tea party for Muslim children of Christian women raped by Muslim men? Come on...Religion has f'ckd up this World since it started...which one is wrong??

Dude you are so misinformed its unreal , this is AP press release from this morning , do you not read the news ?
Actually this agenda by the clerical Islam was in the press about a week ago , and I guess you have no problem with it but I do. There is an underlying problem with this religion , they assume themselves as the government and the people jus let them torment and abuse people and lets not forget how they blow themselves up.
Religion has f ucked up **** , but there is no more prominant group than Muslims right now , so I guess they get all the attention . Had the internet been involved during the Crusades Im sure they would have just as much attention and Im sure Id be just as disturbed.
You want to bring the large government spending into this thread we can do that , just have yourself a look at the printing of money and the spending that is forecasted for the next ten years......you will be amazed at the fact that if the current budget is passed we are screwed , screwed beyond recognition , even if all the markets come back and if we allow child labor we will never get out of this , do your research. I didnt agree with all the bailouts when Bush was president and I dont agree with all the obese spending that is being proposed now.
Back to Muslims , to me they punish a person for being human , is it such a weak breed of man that they cant look upon a woman and control themselves? Are they so simple that they are afraid if a woman is educated , or allowed to commute to the market without a male escort that they will cause a mass riot, give me a break. Its a simple minded religion that chooses to control the people that have no voice or mind of their own and forbid them to speak out because people will execute them or stone them.
I respect your view , you can believe what you want but I really feel for the women and children who are brought up in hatred and subjected to the crap that the majority that lets it happen. This is I think for me the most frustrating thing about this religion , they have no respect for women or other peoples views , they just kill them or throw them in jail , to me that it proves that they are azzholes. Last note how about that Muslim guy in New York that whacked his wives head off because she wanted to divorce him , man we should all sign up for that.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

So you are saying the Taliban is the official government of Afghanistan?

yes it was. until 2001 when AMERICA kicked them out.

and they still rule parts of Afghanastan and Pakistan


you didnt know this?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

yes it was. until 2001 when AMERICA kicked them out.
and they still rule parts of Afghanastan and Pakistan
you didnt know this?

I guess it's obvious I know that, because I'm the one that asked you if you knew <g> that the Taliban is not currently the official government of Afghanistan (because your comment "So you are saying the Klu Klux Klan was in charge of America and our legal system?" says that).

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

I guess it's obvious I know that, because I'm the one that asked you if you knew <g> that the Taliban is not currently the official government of Afghanistan (because your comment "So you are saying the Klu Klux Klan was in charge of America and our legal system?" says that).

key word, was... like in past tense...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

key word, was... like in past tense...

Which is why I don't understand how you think it applies to what I said, which is ... like in current tense

[philcski]

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[dellinger63]

now we all know why she wore the bag over her face...