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Old 08-17-2006, 07:58 PM
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Then i want his job!!!!! Lets see, i only have to work 2 days a week and i win more money than anyone else doing my job? Sign me up!!!
Do you think you could find me a five day stretch this year where Johnny or Edgar only won one race?
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:00 PM
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Garrett was botching rides left n' right at Anita last Winter.He decided it was his agents fault.Book available.
These guys are hysterical. First one of em(who I thought was better than this) decides to start a thread last week about garrett gomez being the leader rider. So apparently this person thought that stat meant something!!! Other wise why start the thread? Now its all different, now that he is in sixth after a very bad stretch "that stat is misleading". Honestly, you can't have it both ways guys. It either means something or it doesnt. Ok boys, if you think riding one winner in 5 racing days with those mounts is okie-dokie, your standards are quite low.

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Old 08-17-2006, 08:03 PM
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Do you think you could find me a five day stretch this year where Johnny or Edgar only won one race?
First of all, i dont think he is as good as Johnny V or Edgar. But that isnt saying a lot because i dont think anyone is right now. Is that your basis of comparison? If he isnt as good as the best two than he sucks? Thats tough.

Gomez is trying a new circuit. He will slump more than JV or Edgar because he doesnt have the relationships that those guys do. All things considered i think Gomez is doing better than expected. He is certainly doing better than YOU predicted.
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:05 PM
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First of all, i dont think he is as good as Johnny V or Edgar. But that isnt saying a lot because i dont think anyone is right now. Is that your basis of comparison? If he isnt as good as the best two than he sucks? Thats tough.

Gomez is trying a new circuit. He will slump more than JV or Edgar because he doesnt have the relationships that those guys do. All things considered i think Gomez is doing better than expected. He is certainly doing better than YOU predicted.
No he isn't. hes in sixth place, and I thought he would finish the meet in third place!!!!!! hes riding piss poor lately!! You see Granny Fanny or Milwaukee? Hes inconsistent, just like I have always said. Who the hell goes from tied or leading rider to sixth place in 6 days!!!!!!!?????? Hes the only guy I know who could accomplish that.
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Garrett was botching rides left n' right at Anita last Winter.He decided it was his agent's fault.Book available.
There are a TON of guys that were available to Ron Anderson. Thats my point. Why did ANDERSON choose GOMEZ?
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:09 PM
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No he isn't. hes in sixth place, and I thought he would finish the meet in third place!!!!!! hes riding piss poor lately!! You see Granny Fanny or Milwaukee? Hes inconsistent, just like I have always said. Who the hell goes from tied or leading rider to sixth place in 6 days!!!!!!!?????? Hes the only guy I know who could accomplish that.
Again, you know why. Come on. As in the game as you are (didnt you pick out a grade 1 winner?) you know how much tougher it is for a rider to stay consistent at a new circuit. To compound matters, he openly stated that he would probably go back west after the meet.

He is two winners away from second place and one winner away from third. He is riding at a 17% clip for the meet and has won over a million dollars there. Not too shabby at the toughest meet in the country.
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:13 PM
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There are a TON of guys that were available to Ron Anderson. Thats my point. Why did ANDERSON choose GOMEZ?
Garrett was getting the top mounts all Winter on the West Coast.What other guy (who was already getting the top mounts on a major circuit) was available?
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:15 PM
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Garrett was getting the top mounts all Winter on the West Coast.What other guy (who was already getting the top mounts on a major circuit) was available?
Those guys fire their agents all the time. All the time! Was Bailey "available" when he started working with Anderson? Anderson does the choosing not the other way around.

The only two guys that wouldnt have listened are probably Johnny V and Prado.
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Old 08-18-2006, 05:49 PM
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No he isn't. hes in sixth place, and I thought he would finish the meet in third place!!!!!! hes riding piss poor lately!! You see Granny Fanny or Milwaukee? Hes inconsistent, just like I have always said. Who the hell goes from tied or leading rider to sixth place in 6 days!!!!!!!?????? Hes the only guy I know who could accomplish that.
Did you like the way Gomez schooled those other jocks today with his 3 wins. I think he's back in 2nd place now.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:02 PM
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Did you like the way Gomez schooled those other jocks today with his 3 wins. I think he's back in 2nd place now.

He rode well today, thats for sure. He has days of brilliance, no doubt.


In all fairness....a trained chimp could have won on Wait A While today.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:20 PM
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He rode well today, thats for sure. He has days of brilliance, no doubt.


In all fairness....a trained chimp could have won on Wait A While today.
Kev,
I'm not writing him off either. Guess who was in the irons on Stevie Ray Gone?
I just wish he'd ride more consistantly.
Somebody said there's a big difference between a rider who reads the form and a "reflex rider" that responds to things once they happen.
If he put BOTH styles together he'd be a great.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:35 PM
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He rode well today, thats for sure. He has days of brilliance, no doubt.


In all fairness....a trained chimp could have won on Wait A While today.
She was much the best but he still rode her perfectly.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:39 PM
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She was much the best but he still rode her perfectly.

yes he did....but did it take alot to ride her perfectly where she was that much the best?
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:55 PM
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yes he did....but did it take alot to ride her perfectly where she was that much the best?
It still took just as much to ride her perfectly. But when you have the best horse like that, you don't need to ride the horse perfectly to win. In other words, even if he would have dropped back too far or even if he would have been too close the pace, he would have probably still won. So the horse would have won even if he didn't give a great ride, but it turns out he did give a great ride.

The really smart thing that he did was when they passed the stands the first time. He let the horse outside of him have the lead and then he quickly got off the rail and went outside of her. That was the proper thing to do.
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Old 08-18-2006, 07:03 PM
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It still took just as much to ride her perfectly. But when you have the best horse like that, you don't need to ride the horse perfectly to win. In other words, even if he would have dropped back too far or even if he would have been too close the pace, he would have probably still won. So the horse would have won even if he didn't give a great ride, but it turns out he did give a great ride.

The really smart thing that he did was when they passed the stands the first time. He let the horse outside of him have the lead and then he quickly got off the rail and went outside of her. That was the proper thing to do.

Fair enough....God knows you guys that have been watching races longer than me know tons more than I do.
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:09 PM
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People face it, the east coasters cant stand that a west coast boy is coming into their back yard and is handing it to them. Just think how much better he will be next year.
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:04 PM
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Oracle = CLOWN

You have no bearing on this subject after Gomez's 3 winners, AGAIN!!!!
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Old 08-19-2006, 01:31 AM
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You have no bearing on this subject after Gomez's 3 winners, AGAIN!!!!
Wake me up when hes leading rider here!! LOL!!!
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Old 08-19-2006, 02:15 AM
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Wake me up when hes leading rider here!! LOL!!!


I sense you are starting to understand the percentages

Edgar S. Prado 117 24 17 16 21 49 $1,271,803
Garrett K. Gomez 100 19 16 18 19 53 $1,134,743
John R. Velazquez 106 18 17 17 17 49 $1,029,284
Cornelio H. Velasquez 126 18 15 18 14 40 $979,157
Rafael Bejarano 107 18 13 11 17 39 $910,534
Eibar Coa 109 18 9 16 17 39 $1,125,487
Julien R. Leparoux 107 14 15 12 13 38 $772,244
Javier Castellano 92 14 10 9 15 36 $1,077,434
Kent J. Desormeaux 98 10 11 15 10 37 $609,350
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Old 08-20-2006, 02:17 PM
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Wake me up when hes leading rider here!! LOL!!!
Thats just a little bit of a cop out. He is now tied for second, he leads in percentage and he is third in money. Is he still getting "schooled"?
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