Bama-Fla. next saturday for all the marbles

[gales0678]

[QUOTE=ddthetide]fla. still has more talent (for now). i figured this Bama team 8 or 9 wins. a very outside shot at 10 wins. is this years Bama team better than last year at this point? i'd say yes. fla's big question, can they "just throw the switch"? Bama plays the same game every week.
last years SECCG Bama out played fla for 3qtrs and did not finish. there is a point were it's not coaching, it's about making plays. the 4th qtr last year fla made more plays.

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January 1, 1993 LA Daily News writer Michael Ventre ...
Alabama doesn't have a hope, or a prayer, or a shot in the dark of upsetting the Hurricanes for the national championship in tonight's Sugar Bowl. And it won't even be close. Alabama will be trounced, clobbered, mauled, devastated, humiliated and left for dead. The Crimson Tide will not roll, not even a little bit. Tonight you will experience low Tide. Probably even ebb Tide. You wouldn't even have to hike up your pant legs to wade in what be left of this Tide after the Hurricanes pass through. [/quote]


if that was your assesment at the beiginning of the year and they won a few games (which almost every champ does) that the easily could have lost (tenn , aurburn ) then why is sat's game the end all be all



alabama will be a favorite over texas or tcu , if they are in the bcs championship game i agreee that they will be fired up and not down like last year but what makes everyone here so sure that the bama/florida winner is a stone colde lock over texas or tcu?? i don't see it , i could see bama losing if they beat florida.....better teams have lost the title game including those miami teams i mentioned

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by gales0678

saban is the best recuriter /motivator in the country , surely you saw how he did in the nfl , florida has the coaching edge no question about it in this game

Where do you come up with this stuff? x's and o's work on both sides of the ball. For all of Urban Meyer's genius with the spread, Saban is that much and then some with his defensive schemes.

Urban Meyer walked into a team that was ready to win. Ron Zook and company had bought quite a nice stock of athletes in the years between meyer and the head ball coach. They never missed a beat.

Alabama on the other hand wasnt getting nearly the same haul before Saban arrived. It takes a few years to really turn it around and we will see in the next couple of years a Bama squad that will perenially contend.

You want to talk about coaching and the last time they met, Saban took a bama team that was a ten point dog into the second half with a lead before they were eventually worn down by a deeper more talented squad. Coaching only goes so far.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Where do you come up with this stuff? x's and o's work on both sides of the ball. For all of Urban Meyer's genius with the spread, Saban is that much and then some with his defensive schemes.

Urban Meyer walked into a team that was ready to win. Ron Zook and company had bought quite a nice stock of athletes in the years between meyer and the head ball coach. They never missed a beat.

Alabama on the other hand wasnt getting nearly the same haul before Saban arrived. It takes a few years to really turn it around and we will see in the next couple of years a Bama squad that will perenially contend.

You want to talk about coaching and the last time they met, Saban took a bama team that was a ten point dog into the second half with a lead before they were eventually worn down by a deeper more talented squad. Coaching only goes so far.

then explain the utah game to me, totally unprepared and totally outschemed , and his defense his bread and butter could not stop the spread offense ---you guys can talk all you want about how the kids didn't want to play the game , didn't want to be there , the OL who screwed up before the game with the agent and couldn't play ..... the defense was swiss cheese , saban didn't have the team ready to play and had no answer for the spread offense , where was the defensive genius that night ???? this all from a team from the lowly mountain west confernece which would have maybe won a about 3 games in the sec....you can't convince me the weren't trying in that game

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by gales0678

then explain the utah game to me, totally unprepared and totally outschemed , and his defense his bread and butter could not stop the spread offense ---you guys can talk all you want about how the kids didn't want to play the game , didn't want to be there , the OL who screwed up before the game with the agent and couldn't play ..... the defense was swiss cheese , saban didn't have the team ready to play and had no answer for the spread offense , where was the defensive genius that night ???? this all from a team from the lowly mountain west confernece which would have maybe won a about 3 games in the sec....you can't convince me the weren't trying in that game

They were flat. Those kids played out of their minds and way over their heads all season long. They weren't supposed to be undefeated most of the year. They were one game away from the BCS and they lose. Not only do they lose the chance to play for the title, they lose the conference title and that undefeated record and their mojo. How were they supposed to get up for the sugar bowl and play Utah after that?

It wasnt about the spread. They played Florida a month earlier and defended the King of the spread just fine. They were just flat. That happens every year. Didnt the great Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow get the crap kicked out of them by Michigan in a meaningless bowl game a few years back?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

They were flat. Those kids played out of their minds and way over their heads all season long. They weren't supposed to be undefeated most of the year. They were one game away from the BCS and they lose. Not only do they lose the chance to play for the title, they lose the conference title and that undefeated record and their mojo. How were they supposed to get up for the sugar bowl and play Utah after that?

It wasnt about the spread. They played Florida a month earlier and defended the King of the spread just fine. They were just flat. That happens every year. Didnt the great Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow get the crap kicked out of them by Michigan in a meaningless bowl game a few years back?

florida hung 30 on them last year , they didn't exactly shut tebow down last year and they couldn't stop utah either

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

It wasnt about the spread. They played Florida a month earlier and defended the King of the spread just fine. They were just flat. That happens every year. Didnt the great Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow get the crap kicked out of them by Michigan in a meaningless bowl game a few years back?

knocking Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow is pretty silly isnt it?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

knocking Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow is pretty silly isnt it?

they lost 4 games that year if i remember correctly , they had defensive issues

it wasn't like they weren't scoring

http://www.circuit8.org/cgi-bin/jail...ASO09JBN013553

http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...arged-with-DUI

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

http://www.circuit8.org/cgi-bin/jail...ASO09JBN013553

http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...arged-with-DUI

This kid is such an idiot. He deserves to sit in jail for a year to think about how much of an idiot he is.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

This kid is such an idiot. He deserves to sit in jail for a year to think about how much of an idiot he is.

Meyer will sit him for the first quarter.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

knocking Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow is pretty silly isnt it?

The point wasnt to knock tebow or meyer. It was to point out that a lot of times what happens in bowl games is meaningless. Teams, especially teams that had a chance for bigger and better things, often come out flat. The underdog treats the game like its their chance for respect and notoriety and the next thing you know you have a surprise. Saying that the result of last year's sugar bowl is an indication of Saban getting outsmarted is silly.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The point wasnt to knock tebow or meyer. It was to point out that a lot of times what happens in bowl games is meaningless. Teams, especially teams that had a chance for bigger and better things, often come out flat. The underdog treats the game like its their chance for respect and notoriety and the next thing you know you have a surprise. Saying that the result of last year's sugar bowl is an indication of Saban getting outsmarted is silly.

uga 2 yrs ago were in the talk for going to the bcs game , they were playing the best football in the sec in early dec , they were ranked ahead of LSU after LSU lost to Arkansas in late nov .... tenn beat them on a 3 way tie-breaker and got to go to the sec game against lsu

lsu beat tenn (ranked down in the top 20), west va lost and usc lost and now the same voters who had uga ahead of lsu the week before now leapfrogged lsu over tenn. mark richt campaigned to no avail....you don't think those kids at UGA felt let down by the polls , computers , etc etc ....lsu beat a tenn team that was good early and bad late , explain to me why the uga kids came out and buried hawaii ???? the polls , computers took it away from them .....bigger and better things .....they got the same conso prize as bama and went to the sugar bowl too

Don't forget Richt was in his second year when that happened...oh wait.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Don't forget Richt was in his second year when that happened...oh wait.

wrong again coach

It's like talking microeconomics with a toddler.

[gales0678]

think what you want

those kids from UGA were ahead of LSU in every major poll 1 week before all the upsets happened , they are not supposed to be leap-frogged because the bcs needed to be fit perfectly , those kids were extremely dis-appointed and had every right to not show up for the sugar bowl

if wv and usc don't lose that week lsu never goes by uga in the polls again, it was a complete disaster

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's like talking microeconomics with a toddler.

Im with you

[gales0678]

At the end of the day here i don't see Greg McIllroy having the heart to beat this defense

The bama defense is great and will give Florida and Tebow fits

but at the end of the day , the red zone inefficency of the Bama def (qb main problem) will be the difference in the game.

He is going to need to make some big time plays in the red zone and against this type of Def (tenn + usc) he has failed to do so this year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48HUdzoKiPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDvLW0JifGs



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