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Old 02-11-2010, 01:48 PM
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PS: I have never used a sheet in my life, except to sleep.
Never figured you for the bidet type.
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:58 PM
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Are the Thorograph numbers that whack? Obviously the speed figures aren't, but they don't purport to tell the story these numbers claim. Also, what about the Ragozin sheets--do they tell anything close to the same story as Thorograph?

PS: I have never used a sheet in my life, except to sleep.
I don't think they are whack - but the scale they are on is an aboslute runaway.

Ferdinand ran a 7 when he won the Ky Derby.

Alysheba ran a 6 and Sunday Silence ran a 6.25

By comparison ... Desert Party was 14th beaten 21.75 lengths behind Mine That Bird in last years Derby - and ran a 7.50

Recapturetheglory was 5th beaten 12 lengths in '08 and ran a 1.75. Anak Nakal was 7th beaten 15 lengths and ran a 4

Z Fortune was 10th beaten 19.5 lengths and got a 6.

Horses have become faster on the ragozin sheets - but not nearly as sharply.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:33 PM
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I don't think they are whack - but the scale they are on is an aboslute runaway.

Ferdinand ran a 7 when he won the Ky Derby.

Alysheba ran a 6 and Sunday Silence ran a 6.25

By comparison ... Desert Party was 14th beaten 21.75 lengths behind Mine That Bird in last years Derby - and ran a 7.50

Recapturetheglory was 5th beaten 12 lengths in '08 and ran a 1.75. Anak Nakal was 7th beaten 15 lengths and ran a 4

Z Fortune was 10th beaten 19.5 lengths and got a 6.

Horses have become faster on the ragozin sheets - but not nearly as sharply.

This article I found said they have lowered about 2 points in 10 years. I don't know if you can extrapolate that straight back say 35 years, but if you could, that would be a 7 point shift since the mid-70s. Seems pretty big!

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/sta...-explained.pdf
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