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Old 03-28-2010, 05:42 PM
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Every time you call our president "O'Dumbass" and lambaste his healthcare bill, which in its current form has a lot more to do with regulation of the healthcare industry and much less about "handouts" (which aren't part of the bill in any way despite your claims, which if you had read my link you would know this.)

This is officially funny at this point.

Isn't there going to be a few people getting health insurance for free. Dont you call that getting a handout? Im talking about people who can work but aren't working and they aren't looking for a job. I guess you think thats okay. Isn't it true that people will be paying for this so called insurance and won't be able to use it until 2014. By that time O'DUMBASS will be long gone. Some health insurance when people will be paying into it and cant use it.
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:00 PM
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What are those AZ teabaggers gunna do now that their hero … Sarah The Quitter … is out there stumping for "rino" McCain???
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:08 PM
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Isn't there going to be a few people getting health insurance for free. Dont you call that getting a handout? Im talking about people who can work but aren't working and they aren't looking for a job. I guess you think thats okay. Isn't it true that people will be paying for this so called insurance and won't be able to use it until 2014. By that time O'DUMBASS will be long gone. Some health insurance when people will be paying into it and cant use it.
NO... they're won't be anyone getting health insurance for free.

The closest to "free" will be people who ARE working, yet not making enough to comfortably purchase coverage on the state health insurance exchanges, will receive tax credits to help pay for them. Hardly even close to free, especially considering the value of tax credits individuals (read: they aren't all they're cracked up to be.)

Again, if you would read the fact sheet I posted instead of making sh1t up you would be a lot more informed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L2CT20100322
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:33 PM
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NO... they're won't be anyone getting health insurance for free.

The closest to "free" will be people who ARE working, yet not making enough to comfortably purchase coverage on the state health insurance exchanges, will receive tax credits to help pay for them. Hardly even close to free, especially considering the value of tax credits individuals (read: they aren't all they're cracked up to be.)

Again, if you would ask your night school teacher to read you the fact sheet I posted instead of making sh1t up you would be a lot more informed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L2CT20100322
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:05 PM
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Isn't there going to be a few people getting health insurance for free.
LOL.
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Old 03-29-2010, 08:44 PM
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NO... they're won't be anyone getting health insurance for free.

The closest to "free" will be people who ARE working, yet not making enough to comfortably purchase coverage on the state health insurance exchanges, will receive tax credits to help pay for them. Hardly even close to free, especially considering the value of tax credits individuals (read: they aren't all they're cracked up to be.)

Again, if you would read the fact sheet I posted instead of making sh1t up you would be a lot more informed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L2CT20100322
All im asking is a question. Obviously you take offense if a question is asked. Maybe its because I wont kiss O'Dumbass' @ss like the rest of you people want to. I will be glad when November gets here for voting. All I have to push is one button. I have no problems with a working person getting help for paying for it. The only sh1t around here is you. I do have a question is it true that lots of people will have to wait until 2013-2014 to use this insurance? If this true then how is this insurance going to help out the American public?
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:51 PM
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so how's everyone doing with thosr $3+ gas prices
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so how's everyone doing with thosr $3+ gas prices
Should be higher Marty
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:59 PM
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What an interesting time to bring this topic back to life. Is the "drill, baby, drill" crew still in the gulf tonight?
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:29 AM
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Ok, so in your opinion GAS prices, a non-life essential product, should be regulated by the government- whereas HEALTHCARE, a life essential product, should not be?
A non-life essential product? I guess you didn't watch the National Geographic special on March 8 - A WORLD WITHOUT OIL.

Lack of health care would take a back seat to the crises of no oil.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

I don't profess to understand how oil prices work - there are so many pundits with their own theories. I just know that in 1999, gas was about $1.00 a gallon, and now it's $3.00 a gallon and diesel, which should cost less than any grade of regular gasoline, costs more than hi-test.

The world has become dependent on oil - not just the United States. Chaos would reign if the world ran out of oil. I'd venture to say that 40% of the U.S. oil usage is for non-transportation usage.
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What an interesting time to bring this topic back to life. Is the "drill, baby, drill" crew still in the gulf tonight?
You Betcha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgR6wXfvhM

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Old 05-07-2010, 08:13 AM
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A non-life essential product? I guess you didn't watch the National Geographic special on March 8 - A WORLD WITHOUT OIL.

Lack of health care would take a back seat to the crises of no oil.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

I don't profess to understand how oil prices work - there are so many pundits with their own theories. I just know that in 1999, gas was about $1.00 a gallon, and now it's $3.00 a gallon and diesel, which should cost less than any grade of regular gasoline, costs more than hi-test.

The world has become dependent on oil - not just the United States. Chaos would reign if the world ran out of oil. I'd venture to say that 40% of the U.S. oil usage is for non-transportation usage.

he was talking about regulation of gas prices, not about oil. as for diesel, prices depend on supply and demand. huge demand for diesel, of course the price will rise.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:24 AM
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he was talking about regulation of gas prices, not about oil. as for diesel, prices depend on supply and demand. huge demand for diesel, of course the price will rise.
No, he said, "a non-life essential product".

That's all well and good about the usage of diesel, but it's cheaper to process than regular gasoline - so it shouldn't cost more. Supposedly, the price of diesel was supposed to drop drastically after the 2009 Summer Olympics in China, and it did a bit, but now it's going back up.
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NO... they're won't be anyone getting health insurance for free.

The closest to "free" will be people who ARE working, yet not making enough to comfortably purchase coverage on the state health insurance exchanges, will receive tax credits to help pay for them. Hardly even close to free, especially considering the value of tax credits individuals (read: they aren't all they're cracked up to be.)

Again, if you would read the fact sheet I posted instead of making sh1t up you would be a lot more informed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L2CT20100322
You can't have an intelligent conversation with a stone so why waste your time. This nitwit hardly even reads the headlines.
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Old 05-07-2010, 12:05 PM
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You can't have an intelligent conversation with a stone so why waste your time. This nitwit hardly even reads the headlines.
I have to commend you. Your not using anyone else's quotes. Maybe you do actually have a brain cell. In reality I do doubt you having a brain cell unless your sitting on it.
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I have to commend you. Your not using anyone else's quotes. Maybe you do actually have a brain cell. In reality I do doubt you having a brain cell unless your sitting on it.
You got me there big fella.
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No, he said, "a non-life essential product".

That's all well and good about the usage of diesel, but it's cheaper to process than regular gasoline - so it shouldn't cost more. Supposedly, the price of diesel was supposed to drop drastically after the 2009 Summer Olympics in China, and it did a bit, but now it's going back up.

i know what he said, he said gas prices, a non essential product-and then you started spouting off about oil in response. those are comparing apples and oranges. gas is a product of oil. oil produces a number of products, gas being just one of them.

as for diesel, i know it's a by product. i also know demand is high as ever. of course the price will follow.
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Old 05-07-2010, 04:37 PM
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You got me there big fella.
Hope you enjoy your weekend.

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i know what he said, he said gas prices, a non essential product-and then you started spouting off about oil in response. those are comparing apples and oranges. gas is a product of oil. oil produces a number of products, gas being just one of them.

as for diesel, i know it's a by product. i also know demand is high as ever. of course the price will follow.
JHC - how you cherry pick what I have to say just so you can grouse in return. Hope Philcski isn't paying you too much to be his spokesperson. And, yes, I know that gasoline is a by-product of oil, and it is a life-essential product.

Take a bit of time to read the web-site I posted about the NG special that was on back in March - THE WORLD WITHOUT OIL. I do have a knowledge base other than what's posted on horse forums.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

<<At five days after the oil disappears, the theory is that the United States would be reduced to martial law as gas stations run out of gasoline and stores begin to run out of food because there isn't enough fuel to keep supplies coming in. Armed guards are needed to simply allow citizens into stores to pick through half-rotten food - which is all that is available.>>
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You too can I expect the usual vulgar PM's?
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