Muslims have gone too far

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by joeydb

OK, were those alleged Christian perpetrators promised 72 virgins in paradise for their acts?

How about looking at scale: when was the last time 19 Christians killed over 3000 innocent people?

And the people saying "They will cut your head off in the middle east" are correct -- we don't have anything like that on the books over here. When we occasionally do carry out the sentence in a capital case, it's after many levels of mandatory appeals and normally around 25 years after the crime -- and the crimes are not defined by religious offenses.

Is decapitating an infidel considered "measured response" in the middle east? Ask Daniel Pearl or Nick Berg.

How about over the last few thousand years? Some of the worst atrocities in the history of mankind were done in the name of Christianity. Surely this fact has not escaped you.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Quite a lot. You just don't care to see it, in your eagerness to condemn millions of people for the acts of a few.

You might try reading the Qur'an, rather than just quoting crazy hate group blogosphere interpretations. I don't care that you hate everyone within one particular religion. You're entitled, I guess. But I sure don't have to suffer the constant repetition of such crap without comment.

I hate to break you this news but Osama Bin Laden is fairly popular throughout the Muslim world. It's not as if 99% of Muslims dislike Bin Laden. I don't know exactly what his popularity numbers are amongst Muslims around the world today, but I know his numbers were pretty high fairly soon after 9/11.

You might try reading the Koran. It says that anyone who defames the prophet(Muhammad) must die. I remember when the author Salman Rushdie wrote the book The Satanic Verses. In the book, he mocked Muhammad in some way. There ended up being a bounty put on Rushdie's head for mocking Muhammad. I remember at the time, a reporter went up to the singer/songwriter Cat Stevens (who is a devout Muslim) to ask him what he thought of the bounty being put on Rushdie's head. Stevens responded that the Koran clearly states that anyone who defames the prophet must die. So he was basically in favor of Rushdie being killed.

It's not like only a small number of Muslims thought Rushdie should die. A fairly high number thought he should die.

I think the vast majority of Muslims that live in the US are probably pretty good people. Thankfully most of them don't take the Koran literally.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'd rather read the Qdoba menu.

Anything good on the menu?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

A few pretty loud and destructive people, it only took a few to kill thousands on 9/11 . The same few that kill their own people everyday but that is ok because its for Allah. If a person of the Muslim faith doesnt want to be lumped in with terrorists that they need to be loud and proud and that doesnt mean just a few lines in the papers saying we denounce their actions . They need to get active and protest their own people in their home lands , hold demonstrations and boycott business or people that are suspected of supporting terrorism . But that wont happen beacuse the few you speak of scare the crap outta the very few that speak up.

Wrong. You might notice the very public response of many Muslim groups in the US to terrorism.

Yes, it only took a few: terrorists - not everyone sharing that religion.

Why continue to ignore that nearly every homegrown US terrorist over the past 25 years has killed us (fellow citizens) in the name of Christ?

Yeah, those American citizen Christians have to speak out, they are all terrorists in the name of their God until proven otherwise.

There are plenty of loud and proud Muslims. Of course, it's difficult to be that in the USA, even for Muslim USA citizens, due to the blanket bigotry and hatred displayed here against them by their fellow citizens.

[Riot]

I hate to break you this news but Osama Bin Laden is fairly popular throughout the Muslim world. It's not as if 99% of Muslims dislike Bin Laden. I don't know exactly what his popularity numbers are amongst Muslims around the world today,

So which is it? He's "fairly popular" or "I don't know" exactly how popular he is?

Considering all the the people of Muslim faith that condemned OBL at the time - and continue to, and continue to condemn terrorist acts - you don't seem to have much support for your guess.

You might try reading the Koran. It says that anyone who defames the prophet(Muhammad) must die.

You might try reading the Koran - where it says absolutely one will not commit murder. Or maybe the part about Jesus- yeah, that Jesus - being a revered prophet.

Or maybe try to learn about religions - how all religions (including the "Christian" ones) have differing and various sects that follow and believe vastly different things. For example, there is that American one that has killed thousands of people over the years in the name of God, with their God's support, 'cause the bible told them to ... oh yeah, the KKK.

I think the vast majority of Muslims that live in the US are probably pretty good people.

As long as they keep quiet and hide their religion from the hate of some of their fellow Americans, the fellow Americans that presume "they" are all killing terrorists because they happen to be of a certain religion others fear and misunderstand.

[Antitrust32]

Riot I think you should go try to live in the middle east, lets say Pakistan, for a little while and report back your findings.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Riot I think you should go try to live in the middle east, lets say Pakistan, for a little while and report back your findings.

You think Pakistan is representative of the Muslim world?

Seriously?

Sorry - I don't buy into the "all Muslims are terrorists" bigotry. But you guys go right ahead.

Perhaps you guys should watch this. Seems to fit right into the sentiments expressed here by some:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/video/i...iraqi-children

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Riot I think you should go try to live in the middle east, lets say Pakistan, for a little while and report back your findings.

Anything to keep that b.itch off the forum.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

You think Pakistan is representative of the Muslim world?

Seriously?

Sorry - I don't buy into the "all Muslims are terrorists" bigotry. But you guys go right ahead.

Perhaps you guys should watch this. Seems to fit right into the sentiments expressed here by some:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/video/i...iraqi-children

I've never said all muslims are terrorists, so dont put words in my mouth bitc.h.

No I dont believe all muslims are radical. You seem to feel like there are only a "few". If "few" means millions, than I may agree. The estimates are that there are approx 1 billion Muslims in the world. The VAST majority are good Muslims (eventhough they still treat women like dog crap).

" Gallup conducted tens of thousands of hour-long, face-to-face interviews with residents of more than thirty-five predominantly Muslim countries between 2001 and 2007. It found that – contrary to the prevailing perception in the west that the actions of al-Qaida enjoy wide support in the Muslim world – more than 90% of respondents condemned the killing of non-combatants on religious and humanitarian grounds [156] "


Looking at these generalized numbers, it would be safe to say that 10% of the Muslim population is radical. Thats 100,000 million people, or 1/3 of the population of the United States, that think terrorists attacks are good things.

Thats a scary high amount of people. So yes, the majority of Muslims are not like that. But a ton of people are.

I have absolutely no respect for that religion, even if they had 0% terrorists, because women are treated with less respect than dogs. This world would be a much better place if mythical Muhommed had never been written about.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Riot

For example, there is that American one that has killed thousands of people over the years in the name of God, with their God's support, 'cause the bible told them to ... oh yeah, the KKK.

This comparison is an outrage!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

This comparison is an outrage!

Thankfully the KKK can't even win a fight on a Jerrry Springer show anymore, so neither an outrage nor timely.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I've never said all muslims are terrorists, so dont put words in my mouth bitc.h.

No I dont believe all muslims are radical. You seem to feel like there are only a "few". If "few" means millions, than I may agree. The estimates are that there are approx 1 billion Muslims in the world. The VAST majority are good Muslims (eventhough they still treat women like dog crap).

" Gallup conducted tens of thousands of hour-long, face-to-face interviews with residents of more than thirty-five predominantly Muslim countries between 2001 and 2007. It found that – contrary to the prevailing perception in the west that the actions of al-Qaida enjoy wide support in the Muslim world – more than 90% of respondents condemned the killing of non-combatants on religious and humanitarian grounds [156] "


Looking at these generalized numbers, it would be safe to say that 10% of the Muslim population is radical. Thats 100,000 million people, or 1/3 of the population of the United States, that think terrorists attacks are good things.

Thats a scary high amount of people. So yes, the majority of Muslims are not like that. But a ton of people are.

I have absolutely no respect for that religion, even if they had 0% terrorists, because women are treated with less respect than dogs. This world would be a much better place if mythical Muhommed had never been written about.

and if the 90% would only follow the path of America and stand up against their radicals the same way we did with the KKK they'd be far better off. They might even allow women to drive eventually after they first do away with 'honor killings' and female castration.

What about radical cavemen who killed other cavemen who believed in fire?

Ha! Your point is moot, f.uckface! Game, Set, Match!

[Riot]

[quote]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I've never said all muslims are terrorists, so dont put words in my mouth bitc.h.

I never said you did. stupid bitc.h

No I dont believe all muslims are radical. You seem to feel like there are only a "few". If "few" means millions, than I may agree.

No. I don't classify "Muslims" into radicals or not. There are terrorists, and there are people who are not terrorists.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

This comparison is an outrage!

The comparison is people who kill others in the name of their "god".

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

What about radical cavemen who killed other cavemen who believed in fire?

Ha! Your point is moot, f.uckface! Game, Set, Match!

Said the intellectual excellence of Dee Tee

Originally Posted by Riot

Said the intellectual excellence of Dee Tee

Said the equine vet nobody uses. Go cut some dogs balls off, b.itch.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

and if the 90% would only follow the path of America .

You mean the "path of America" as demonstrated by the ignorant, bigoted, homophobic American soldier in the link I posted?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Said the equine vet nobody uses. Go cut some dogs balls off, b.itch.

LOL - you clearly have no clue whatsoever of what I do professionally.

Someday I hope your psychotropic meds kick in, you can leave your parents basement, and venture out into the real world.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Riot

The comparison is people who kill others in the name of their "god".

Missing the point award