The former Gulf of Mexico

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Gee. Hum.

These same people didn't have a problem with Bin Laden when he was killing Americans. Quite to the contrary. Bin Laden's popularity in the Muslim world was at its height shortly after 9/11.

If Bin Laden didn't kill so many Muslims and he just concentrated on killing Americans, Christians, Jews, and Hindus, he would probably be more popular than ever in the Muslim world.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, it's not fn stupid, you moronic d**head. They make money on oil. They lose money on safety implementations (they are currently fighting safety standards - the same ones which lack of caused the gulf disaster - for their Canadian drilling ops). They lose money spending it on cleanup.

well i can see the gulf from my back yard. bp has hired every fishing boat in the area to work the boom lines.they have set up community claims centers all over the gulf from new orleans to key west. there were 30 clean up crews on the beach 1 day before the first blob of oil hit. they have stated they will pay claims for any loss of income..ie canceled bookings for rental homes ect.
it was an unfortunate mistake made on the platform. the high menthane pressure was not dealt with correctly. as i am sure you will come back on here and tell me diffrent. ill let it go.

also many oil rigs were damaged durring hurricane ivan and katrina..not
1 has had a problem like this .they have been fixed as much as possible.
think about this riot..how much do you think it costs too build one of these rigs.? and you really think they dont care?..the us coast gaurd , the epa,
osha, has had standerds for years that have made this kind of accident
a non issue. you dont know **** about what your saying. and i heard somthing
last night you will like ...this could have been stopped in 6 days by Halliburton
and obamas people wouldent even concider it. point your mouth twards your
boy obama..hes the one who does not care....this info came from the military......

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

well i can see the gulf from my back yard. bp has hired every fishing boat in the area to work the boom lines.they have set up community claims centers all over the gulf from new orleans to key west. there were 30 clean up crews on the beach 1 day before the first blob of oil hit. they have stated they will pay claims for any loss of income..ie canceled bookings for rental homes ect.
it was an unfortunate mistake made on the platform. the high mentane pressure was not dealt with correctly. as i am sure you will come back on here and tell me diffrent. ill let it go.

also many oil rigs were damaged durring hurricane ivan and katrina..not
1 has had a problem like this .they have been fixed as much as possible.
think about this riot..how much do you think it costs too build one of these rigs.? and you really think they dont care?..the us coast gaurd , the epa,
osha, has had standerds for years that have made this kind of accident
a non issue. you dont know **** about what your saying. and i heard somthing
last night you will like ...this could have been stopped in 6 days by Halliburton
and obamas people wouldent even concider it. point your mouth twards your
boy obama..hes the one who does not care....this info came from the military......

Have you heard anything about the 33 deep-water rigs that are shut down?

I have.

Seems like Soros the Hedge Fund Hog is looking to move a few of them down south.

It must be nice to have employees in high places.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

.how much do you think it costs too build one of these rigs.? and you really think they dont care?.

If BP cared (about the gulf), they wouldn't have spent, and currently are spending, so much time and effort and money fighting to have safety requirements waived or removed. BP wouldn't have disregarded the safe methods, supervisors having a fight over disregarding it, the night the rig blew and killed those men.

BP is a corporation. I expect them to think of their owners first. That is their responsibility. Our government through MM was responsible for not allowing our interests - as the owners of the property - to be disregarded. For not allowing BP to literally write their own safety inspections.

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Riot

If BP cared (about the gulf), they wouldn't have spent, and currently are spending, so much time and effort and money fighting to have safety requirements waived or removed. BP wouldn't have disregarded the safe methods, supervisors having a fight over disregarding it, the night the rig blew and killed those men.

BP is a corporation. I expect them to think of their owners first. That is their responsibility. Our government through MM was responsible for not allowing our interests - as the owners of the property - to be disregarded. For not allowing BP to literally write their own safety inspections.

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

But..but..you aren't allowed to bring up Bush in this forum.

The response to the spill is clearly Dubya's fault. If he wouldn't have f.ucked up for 8 years then we wouldn't have the community organizer in charge looking to kick some ass and file criminal charges before the spill is stopped.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But..but..you aren't allowed to bring up Bush in this forum.

Really it was more of a Cheney reference ...

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

I believe you maybe on to something here just the wrong suspect. Locally we are hearing the condo Rahm stayed in rent-free in DC for five years is owned by a guy (Greenburg) who along with James Carvell and another guy run a consulting/promo business (GCS I think) with BP as a customer. In fact these guy's came up with the whole "Greener, friendlier BP" with all the green logos etc. I don't see any crime in any of this yet but it does have that Chicago stink I'm so familiar with.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But..but..you aren't allowed to bring up Bush in this forum.

sure you can..why exactly does this include him..

its a knee jerk reaction any time obama looks like a fool.blame bush/ch..
we wanted 'change' but not at the expense of the gulf of mexico..if true that
obama wouldent concider using kbr when in fact they were able to stop
the leak alot sooner thats just wrong.ive checked around and they do this [cap wells] also typical is the rush to blame the oil company for lax safety.
it was an industrial accident.obama dropped the ball on his toe..

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Riot

If BP cared (about the gulf), they wouldn't have spent, and currently are spending, so much time and effort and money fighting to have safety requirements waived or removed. BP wouldn't have disregarded the safe methods, supervisors having a fight over disregarding it, the night the rig blew and killed those men.

BP is a corporation. I expect them to think of their owners first. That is their responsibility. Our government through MM was responsible for not allowing our interests - as the owners of the property - to be disregarded. For not allowing BP to literally write their own safety inspections.

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

your second award is on the way ..fine work..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

your second award is on the way ..fine work..

I'll stick with BP being careless, incompetent in the face of disaster, and deliberately sacrificing safety for profit.

You stick with calling this an "industrial accident", and that it's wrong to, "blame the oil company for lax safety".

We'll see.

[Honu]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html


Maybe this is who we should blame, our corrupt politicians and the lobbyists they employ really they should be very ashamed of themselves but of course they arent.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'll stick with BP being careless, incompetent in the face of disaster, and deliberately sacrificing safety for profit.

You stick with calling this an "industrial accident", and that it's wrong to, "blame the oil company for lax safety".

We'll see.

Give BP credit. Like Carter and Obama with the mideast, they understand the complexity of the problem and in your mind isn't that what counts?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html


Maybe this is who we should blame, our corrupt politicians and the lobbyists they employ really they should be very ashamed of themselves but of course they arent.

The quoted article, above, is dated May 5th.

Another point of view:
Media Matters EXCLUSIVE: Debunking the myth of Obama's "BP cash"
May 24, 2010 2:47 pm ET by Julie Millican & Eric Schroeck
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005240042

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

The quoted article, above, is dated May 5th.

Another point of view:
Media Matters EXCLUSIVE: Debunking the myth of Obama's "BP cash"
May 24, 2010 2:47 pm ET by Julie Millican & Eric Schroeck
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005240042

Who do you think gives the employees the money to donate ?????? You cannot be that blind read the rest of the article they pay commitees and spend millions on lobbying . Do you really believe that BP has no influence on how the regulatory commissions do buisness when they or their employess give them so much money. Get a clue .

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

Who do you think gives the employees the money to donate ?????? You cannot be that blind read the rest of the article they pay commitees and spend millions on lobbying . Do you really believe that BP has no influence on how the regulatory commissions do buisness when they or their employess give them so much money. Get a clue .

No. You haven't noticed I've already posted about BP being in bed with MM, I guess.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

No. You haven't noticed I've already posted about BP being in bed with MM, I guess.

You know its not even about Dems or Rep its all of them , its sickening to see the amount of "legal" corruption our government allows. If I were President the first thing I would do is outlaw campaign contributions by anyone. If you cant do it on your own then tough crap .

[Riot]

Shocking expose in Rolling Stone, how MMS became completely corrupt under Bush, Salazar failed to change a thing under Obama, and BP disregards safety, period. Eight pages - takes a while, but all are a good read. Unfortunately, very, very ugly.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...RS_show_page=0

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

burp.. obama s in town to roll up his shirt and 'get around this thing'...lol
photo op..4 trips too the gulf coast..advance party ,airforce one, cost the taxpayers about 75 mill..nice

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

burp.. obama s in town to roll up his shirt and 'get around this thing'...lol
photo op..4 trips too the gulf coast..advance party ,airforce one, cost the taxpayers about 75 mill..nice

Good point - let's talk about Presidential travel expenses: Bush II spent 1/3 of his presidency on vacation: chilling back at his ranch in Texas or hanging out at Camp David. Traveled there via Airforce One, presidential helicopters, advance party, Secret Service. Talk about $$$$$$$$$$ to taxpayers.

The gulf is now a longstanding, forever environment disaster caused by gross private corporate negligence that will have decades of negative impact on the lives of millions of Americans (and Brits who have seen their pensions tank), and isn't under one bit of real control yet.

Today BP warned of extreme employee safety hazard (threat of explosion, loss of life) and massive topspill hazards regarding the methodology of ships gathering oil directly off the well cap pipeline. So extreme they want to have the employees abandon the ships.

I have no problem with the president going to Louisiana.