Hey Oracle Say it aint so: Johnny V winless for 5 days!!!

[Scav]

Why doesn't everyone just chill out, there is an ignore feature on this board, if you don't like what someone has to say, block them

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Not the thread or section for this discussion but if you would like to do it in the political section i would be happy to engage. I always appreciate a well thought out debate and our debates so far have been pretty fun (especially the kent d one).

This thread is about ORACLE and how he was WRONG. Lets see if he is EVER going to be stand up. I wont hold my breath.

By the way, Gomez already has two wins today. He had 3 yesterday. If he keeps this up, he may catch Prado in the Saratoga standings.

[Danzig]

not exactly sure why people want to come back and demand an apology or retraction when someone, or mostly a certain someone, is wrong. what's the point? if we all had to face 'you were wrong, admit it' threads, would anyone ever go out on a limb on anything? make a pick?

what, we have message board police now?? i don't recall anywhere in the rules on here that said you must come and take your lumps when you're wrong. it's irritating, at least to me. it's all up here in black and white. everyone can see, and go back and re-read, what was said. funny what interests some on here.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

not exactly sure why people want to come back and demand an apology or retraction when someone, or mostly a certain someone, is wrong. what's the point? if we all had to face 'you were wrong, admit it' threads, would anyone ever go out on a limb on anything? make a pick?

what, we have message board police now?? i don't recall anywhere in the rules on here that said you must come and take your lumps when you're wrong. it's irritating, at least to me. it's all up here in black and white. everyone can see, and go back and re-read, what was said. funny what interests some on here.

Oracle deserves it in this case because he is always one to say "I told you so."

[Danzig]

so he says that...so what

i'd rather see the others put up their own thoughts, if they're correct, wonderful. seems to me their i told you sos are just as irritating.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

so he says that...so what

i'd rather see the others put up their own thoughts, if they're correct, wonderful. seems to me their i told you sos are just as irritating.

Where i come from, if you talk it then be prepared to eat it. I'll put up my selections as i did the other day at the spa in the selections section. And if im wrong and someone calls me out then I will tip my hat and say "good day". Its called being a man. This oracle is a little child.

And if you dont like it, dont respond. But please dont whine.

[Scav]

Guys, lets let the thread die, I am sure Steve will take care of it

[Danzig]

lol
i'm not the one starting a thread like this, but I'M the whiner??

i don't like i told you so threads from anyone, directed towards anyone, nor do i like 'i'm right' threads. big egos bother me. and in that i am very consistent.

true scavs...definitely not a racing thread, which is much more enjoyable.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

lol
i'm not the one starting a thread like this, but I'M the whiner??

i don't like i told you so threads from anyone, directed towards anyone, nor do i like 'i'm right' threads. big egos bother me. and in that i am very consistent.

true scavs...definitely not a racing thread, which is much more enjoyable.

Well ive looked through a couple of Oracle's "i told you threads" and i havent seen you rail against him in any of them. Yeah, real consistent.

There isnt anything "whiney" about this thread. I was just calling someone out that makes a habit out of calling everyone else out. But i guess you shouldnt call out the lord of the flies.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Well ive looked through a couple of Oracle's "i told you threads" and i havent seen you rail against him in any of them. Yeah, real consistent.

There isnt anything "whiney" about this thread. I was just calling someone out that makes a habit out of calling everyone else out. But i guess you shouldnt call out the lord of the flies.

oracle and i have been posting for years, i long ago gave that up--it's fruitless. believe me, he and i have had some tremendous go rounds over the years.

and now i guess i'll call it a day on this thread. it bears no fruit either. by all means, continue. maybe you'll make headway. but i doubt it.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

not exactly sure why people want to come back and demand an apology or retraction when someone, or mostly a certain someone, is wrong. what's the point? if we all had to face 'you were wrong, admit it' threads, would anyone ever go out on a limb on anything? make a pick?

Really? I've heard Rupert say he was wrong many times, usually about a horse he liked or didn't like, but sometimes about other aspects of racing. It's one of the reasons I respect him so much. Do you really find it so humiliating to admit you were wrong about something you said. Apparently oracle does.

Oracle in the past week has said that Bute can be administered on race day in California. He has yet to correct that error, despite saying he would talk to a trainer who would know.

Oracle posted that he would admit he was wrong about Songster if the sheets came back showing Songster's last race was on a par with other races. Still waiting for that promise to be fulfilled.

And now the one referred to in this thread, where oracle assured us that JV would never go 0-5. Instead of ackowledging he was wrong, he makes a ridiculous comment about "miniscule" number of races. (most riders would kill to have 25 mounts at Saratoga in 5 days, with as many live ones as JV had).

I'm not here to bug oracle. I'm here to talk horses, share info, learn something. But there's a pattern here of oracle dishing it out but not taking any responsibility for his own errors or promises. And yes, it bothers me, but not enough to keep me up at night.

--Dunbar

[Scurlogue Champ]

Dang...

Gomez wins again

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Really? I've heard Rupert say he was wrong many times, usually about a horse he liked or didn't like, but sometimes about other aspects of racing. It's one of the reasons I respect him so much. Do you really find it so humiliating to admit you were wrong about something you said. Apparently oracle does.

Oracle in the past week has said that Bute can be administered on race day in California. He has yet to correct that error, despite saying he would talk to a trainer who would know.

Oracle posted that he would admit he was wrong about Songster if the sheets came back showing Songster's last race was on a par with other races. Still waiting for that promise to be fulfilled.

And now the one referred to in this thread, where oracle assured us that JV would never go 0-5. Instead of ackowledging he was wrong, he makes a ridiculous comment about "miniscule" number of races. (most riders would kill to have 25 mounts at Saratoga in 5 days, with as many live ones as JV had).

I'm not here to bug oracle. I'm here to talk horses, share info, learn something. But there's a pattern here of oracle dishing it out but not taking any responsibility for his own errors or promises. And yes, it bothers me, but not enough to keep me up at night.

--Dunbar

Well Said!

Dont look now but Garret Gomez just won another one...his third winner off the day and it was a theft on the lead. Nice ride Garrett!

Henny Hughes better not lose or it will be 0-6 days.

[Seattleallstar]

breaks it with interpretation

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Well Said!

Dont look now but Garret Gomez just won another one...his third winner off the day and it was a theft on the lead. Nice ride Garrett!

Henny Hughes better not lose or it will be 0-6 days.

Gomez just rode his fourth winner of the day. He had 3 winners yesterday. That means he's won 7 races in two days. That's not too bad.

Joel,
If you wanna suck up to Arabs be my guest. My best guess would be that waxing poetic about them on a message board wouldn't be quite the best way to go about it though. Perhaps actually achieving something within the industry would, say like, buying a grade one winner. Wake me up when you get around to doing something of that magnitude.
As far as this thing with johnny goes, when I criticize a rider I criticize the ride itself. Dunbar is such a pathetic moron that he took the time to find teh prices of his losing mounts yet couldn't find one that was a bad ride. And isn't that the point?
Bernadini is the best three year old I ever saw as of today, no doubt about it.

Gomez is in one his hot streaks the last week, making all the right moves and I really haven't seen him butcher one this week even in his losing efforts(you see Dunbar, if you wanna criticize a rider you have to cite a specific ride, something you were unable to do.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel,
If you wanna suck up to Arabs be my guest. My best guess would be that waxing poetic about them on a message board wouldn't be quite the best way to go about it though. Perhaps actually achieving something within the industry would, say like, buying a grade one winner. Wake me up when you get around to doing something of that magnitude.
As far as this thing with johnny goes, when I criticize a rider I criticize the ride itself. Dunbar is such a pathetic moron that he took the time to find teh prices of his losing mounts yet couldn't find one that was a bad ride. And isn't that the point?
Bernadini is the best three year old I ever saw as of today, no doubt about it.

Gomez is in one his hot streaks the last week, making all the right moves and I really haven't seen him butcher one this week even in his losing efforts(you see Dunbar, if you wanna criticize a rider you have to cite a specific ride, something you were unable to do.

You don't read too well, do you oracle. No one said JV gave a bad ride. But someone said he would never go 0-5. Gee, I wonder what genius said that. Probably the same genius that thinks 25 rides in 5 days is "miniscule".

--Dunbar

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel,
If you wanna suck up to Arabs be my guest. My best guess would be that waxing poetic about them on a message board wouldn't be quite the best way to go about it though. Perhaps actually achieving something within the industry would, say like, buying a grade one winner. Wake me up when you get around to doing something of that magnitude.
As far as this thing with johnny goes, when I criticize a rider I criticize the ride itself. Dunbar is such a pathetic moron that he took the time to find teh prices of his losing mounts yet couldn't find one that was a bad ride. And isn't that the point?
Bernadini is the best three year old I ever saw as of today, no doubt about it.

Gomez is in one his hot streaks the last week, making all the right moves and I really haven't seen him butcher one this week even in his losing efforts(you see Dunbar, if you wanna criticize a rider you have to cite a specific ride, something you were unable to do.

LOL

Dont try to weasel out of it you spineless little punk. No one said anything about JV doing anything wrong. It was merely pointed out that you were WRONG and too much of a chump to admit it.

Now run along little man. Indeed, you are a very little man.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL

Dont try to weasel out of it you spineless little punk. No one said anything about JV doing anything wrong. It was merely pointed out that you were WRONG and too much of a chump to admit it.

Now run along little man. Indeed, you are a very little man.

No terrorist sympathizer, you are.
No I wanna get this out in the open right now. And don't say it doesn't matter because it DOES matter. Are you or are you not sympathetic to the plight and cause of those who are attempting to hurt the United States?
I want nothing to do with consorting with someone like you.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by oracle80

No terrorist sympathizer, you are.
No I wanna get this out in the open right now. And don't say it doesn't matter because it DOES matter. Are you or are you not sympathetic to the plight and cause of those who are attempting to hurt the United States?
I want nothing to do with consorting with someone like you.

You are pathetic. You will stoop to anything to avoid simply admitting you were wrong that JV would NEVER go 0-5.

--Dunbar