"Tea Party" implodes & divides: buh-bye, racist Mark Williams

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Riot

It is. It has to be Axe, not Rahm, in this driver's seat. Where are their balls when it comes to the GOP? Can you imagine what LBJ would have done with this?

I've been becoming less enamored with the Obama administration as time goes on (for very different reasons than Nascar, Rupert, joeydb, etc), but this is shameful.

They're letting a sack like Andrew Breitbart dictate their personnel decisions?! They're terrified, they've got no spine, and I'm sick of it. They've spent a year and a half letting dishonest blowhards from the other side run their ship.

Brian I said a week or two ago he needs to clean house.

He will wait until November but he should start sending some of them home right now.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Brian I said a week or two ago he needs to clean house.

He will wait until November but he should start sending some of them home right now.

Do you remember in what context you said that? At least when you're not making fun of people you're legitimately spiteful of all things political from both parties, and I am legitimately interested in elaboration on this, if you care to.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

They're letting a sack like Andrew Breitbart dictate their personnel decisions?! They're terrified, they've got no spine, and I'm sick of it. They've spent a year and a half letting dishonest blowhards from the other side run their ship.

I agree with that assessment. They tried the post-partisan crap and it blew up in their faces. Take off the cup and run the freaking country the way the majority of the electorate elected you to do so.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Riot

I agree with that assessment. They tried the post-partisan crap and it blew up in their faces. Take off the cup and run the freaking country the way the majority of the electorate elected you to do so.

Exactly. If you're going to get voted out, at least get voted out after doing the things you promised to do rather than getting voted out for doing everything in a half-assed way because you're scared.

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Do you remember in what context you said that? At least when you're not making fun of people you're legitimately spiteful of all things political from both parties, and I am legitimately interested in elaboration on this, if you care to.

Probably in one of the BP threads.

I would look it up but the house next to mine just caught on fire and I have to go golfing.

If you need it any thicker just let me know.

Edit: Wrong disaster

Guess who...

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...ma+clean+house

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Because they're spineless sacks who are for some ungodly reason, afraid of professional liar and sack of sh*t Andrew Breitbart, which shouldn't be surprising given the lack of a pair that they've shown in anything else.



Yea, I guess you would. That sentence is absolutely laughable and the exact M.O. for you. "Well, I guess I would have to hear the whole thing, right? But since I didn't bother to, she's a racist. But yea, you're right, I should hear the rest so I know more about it. But until then, she's a racist."

For Christ's sake, Rupert, the entire story she told was about her having held prejudices and overcoming them and realizing that nobody wanted to help a poor person regardless of their color. The white farmer she speaks of would certainly disagree with your lazy assessment, considering that they call Sherrod a good friend and have since then.

Also, where is Princess Doreen to defend Sherrod? You calling Sherrod a racist is as bad as calling her the N-word when it's unsubstantiated, which it clearly is if you bothered to do your homework rather than believing f*cking Andrew Breitbart. Are you kidding me? The second-least credible conservative hack liar out there has 10x the credibility of Andrew Breitbart.

You can't blame me for having not heard the whole speech at the time I made the post. The whole speech was not out there at the time. I had the same opinion as everyone else who had heard the 2 minute clip.

By the way, I wouldn't be shocked if Breitbart hadn't even heard the whole speech.

You go on and on about what a liar Breibart is. Tell me about all the things he has lied about over the years. I doubt he is any worse than any patisan with an agenda, which includes many in the mainstream media. Most of these partisans (whether from the left or the right) just give you half the story.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, they paid for the silly looking fake pimp kid to go to office after office after office, until they got a tape they could edit the crap out of and make Acorn look bad.

It's known as a sting operation and Acorn was exposed. But you blame it on the people who shot the video and the editing. Ok, whatever you say Riot.

How do you explain all the voter fraud perpetrated by Acorn? I guess that's not their fault either. Acorn must be the victim. It's the people who exposed the voter fraud who are the bad ones.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You can't blame me for having not heard the whole speech at the time I made the post. The whole speech was not out there at the time. I had the same opinion as everyone else who had heard the 2 minute clip.

By the way, I wouldn't be shocked if Breitbart hadn't even heard the whole speech.

You go on and on about what a liar Breibart is. Tell me about all the things he has lied about over the years. I doubt he is any worse than any patisan with an agenda, which includes many in the mainstream media. Most of these partisans (whether from the left or the right) just give you half the story.

breitbart has had the entire speech since march. he did selective editing and then released it in response to the racist charges levelled at a teaparty member.

and yes, both sides have partisans who selectively use what they see fit to further their agenda, doesn't mean we have to accept or tolerate it.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/id/2261552/

Amen Canard
Breitbart lied about Shirley Sherrod. Now he's lying about the NAACP.
By William Saletan
Posted Friday, July 23, 2010, at 7:38 AM ET


Andrew Breitbart made a mistake. Based on a two-minute video excerpt of Shirley Sherrod's speech at an NAACP dinner last year, he accused her of practicing racism as a federal employee. He neglected to mention that in the excerpt, she was clearly talking about events in a different job 20 years ago. And when the rest of the video turned up, it proved that her story was about transcending her old racial resentment.

and the end of the article:

So, let's review the Breitbart gang's allegations:

When … she expresses a discriminatory attitude towards white people, the audience responds with applause. False.
The NAACP … is cheering on a person describing a white person as the other. False.
The NAACP audience seemed to have approved of her actions when she talked about not helping the white farmer. False.
They weren't cheering redemption; they were cheering discrimination. False.
As Ms. Sherrod recounted the first part of her parable, how she declined to do everything she could for the farmer because of his race, the audience responded in approval. False.

First Breitbart and his acolytes falsely accused Sherrod of discriminating against whites as a federal employee, despite having no evidence for this charge in the original video excerpt. Strike one.

Then they misrepresented Sherrod's story as an embrace of racism, when in fact she was repudiating racism. They later pleaded ignorance of this fact because they didn't have the full video. Strike two.

Now, with the full video in hand and posted on their Web site, they're lying about the reaction of the NAACP audience.

The excuses are all used up, Mr. Breitbart.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I watched most of the video and I don't think Ms. Sherrod said anything bad. If you want to nit-pick, you could say that she had some racist attitudes 24 years ago and she was an adult at tht time. She was 38 years old at the time.

But that was 24 years ago and from listening to her speech it sounds like she has totally changed. She seems like a decent woman. I don't think she deserved to be fired.

This is one of the few cases where you can legitimately say that a person's words were taken out of context.

I admit that my initial take on this woman and this story was totally wrong. I'm not too proud to admit it when I'm wrong.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It's known as a sting operation and Acorn was exposed. But you blame it on the people who shot the video and the editing. Ok, whatever you say Riot.

How do you explain all the voter fraud perpetrated by Acorn? I guess that's not their fault either. Acorn must be the victim. It's the people who exposed the voter fraud who are the bad ones.

Rupert: The "sting" pimp-whore kids only got one person at Acorn (after visiting office after office) to talk to them, and that person called the police on them.

The "voter fraud" perpetrated was a bunch of lazy people filling out Mickey Mouse on some voter cards. Did "Mickey Mouse" ever cast a vote? No. So was "voter fraud" done? No. Nothing more than a bunch of lazy people making up names.

Get the truth, Rup. Even Shep Smith tagged Faux News for what they are, on his show. Did you see this today?

Top Fox News correspondent Carl Cameron reportedly said he agrees that the channel supports the Tea Party.

The Daily Beast's Steve Friess reports that he witnessed a conversation between Daily Kos blogger Dante Atkins and Fox News chief political correspondent Carl Cameron at the Netroot Nations conference on Friday, during which Cameron said some people on the channel are boosting the Tea Party and have improperly hyped the Shirley Sherrod story.

Friess says that Atkins had just finished a segment on Fox News about the netroots, and was telling Cameron some of the things he had said on television:

"Cameron...nodded as Atkins repeated comments he made on camera that the Tea Party movement was largely organized by Fox News hosts like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.

'Tell me about it,' Cameron smirked.

As the conversation continued, Atkins...cited examples of Fox's undue sway over events. Cameron then offered one of his own.

'The Sherrod case is an example of some at Fox News trying to have more influence than it probably should,' Cameron said.

When confronted with his comments, Cameron told Friess that they had been taken out of context, and that he was defending the standards of the channel's news division. Atkins told Friess that the remarks were accurate and were not taken out of context.

In September, a Fox News producer was caught rallying the crowd at a 9/12 protest.

Are all media outlets "fair and balanced"? No. Hard to find a good investigative journalist nowadays. Is Faux News? Hell no.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I admit that my initial take on this woman and this story was totally wrong. I'm not too proud to admit it when I'm wrong.

Rup, the White House was jumping off the cliff right with ya. That's the biggest story here, IMO.

Edit: But Rush isn't backing down! LOL Go, Rushbie!

Rush Limbaugh criticized Shepard Smith and Fox News for their backtracking on the Shirley Sherrod story, saying they had "caved" by admitting that the tape of Sherrod had been taken out of context.

On Wednesday, Smith tore into his own network, saying it had failed to check whether or not the Sherrod story was true. That night, Bill O'Reilly also apologized for his role in pushing the story.

This did not sit well with Limbaugh. On his radio show Thursday, he said that conservative media "cowards" have wrongly abandoned the story:

"I have to go after it, because even Fox caved on this. Even Shep Smith. Even poor old Shep Smith went down there and said that everybody's wrong on this, that Breitbart is wrong and so forth. There's only a handful of us that have the guts to put this story straight. If we don't hammer back, nobody will."

He also said that the video was actually about the "smearing of great patriotic Americans" in the Tea Party, and not about Sherrod herself.

Here's the audio/video of Rush saying that: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_657546.html

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Rupert: The "sting" pimp-whore kids only got one person at Acorn (after visiting office after office) to talk to them, and that person called the police on them.

The "voter fraud" perpetrated was a bunch of lazy people filling out Mickey Mouse on some voter cards. Did "Mickey Mouse" ever cast a vote? No. So was "voter fraud" done? No. Nothing more than a bunch of lazy people making up names.

Get the truth, Rup. Even Shep Smith tagged Faux News for what they are, on his show. Did you see this today?



Are all media outlets "fair and balanced"? No. Hard to find a good investigative journalist nowadays. Is Faux News? Hell no.

There was widespread voter fraud by Acorn all across the country.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-74288792.html

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Rupert: The "sting" pimp-whore kids only got one person at Acorn (after visiting office after office) to talk to them, and that person called the police on them.

The "voter fraud" perpetrated was a bunch of lazy people filling out Mickey Mouse on some voter cards. Did "Mickey Mouse" ever cast a vote? No. So was "voter fraud" done? No. Nothing more than a bunch of lazy people making up names.

Get the truth, Rup. Even Shep Smith tagged Faux News for what they are, on his show. Did you see this today?



Are all media outlets "fair and balanced"? No. Hard to find a good investigative journalist nowadays. Is Faux News? Hell no.

Fox News has plenty of reporters that are Republicans. There is no doubt about that. Some of these reporters have a bias. There is no doubt about that. But at practically every other news station, 90% of the reporters and anchors are Democrats and many of them have a bias.

I find it amusing that you bash Fox News for showing a bias at times, while you have no problem with all the other news channels that have shown a liberal-leaning bias for years.

I wonder if Dan Rather had a liberal bias. It was hard to tell. LOL.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I wonder if Dan Rather had a liberal bias. It was hard to tell. LOL.

Unlike Breibart who showed actual video albeit in sections, Mr. Rather went with completely forged documents in his quest to bash W.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

There was widespread voter fraud by Acorn all across the country.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-74288792.html

Do you even read what you post, before you link it?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I find it amusing that you bash Fox News for showing a bias at times, while you have no problem with all the other news channels that have shown a liberal-leaning bias for years.

LOL. Not even remotely true, but I know reality or evidence has short shrift with you

Fox News has plenty of reporters that are Republicans. There is no doubt about that. Some of these reporters have a bias. There is no doubt about that. But at practically every other news station, 90% of the reporters and anchors are Democrats and many of them have a bias.

Are you aware that there is a vast difference between "news" and "opinion"?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do you even read what you post, before you link it?

Yes, I read it. What did I miss?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL. Not even remotely true, but I know reality or evidence has short shrift with you



Are you aware that there is a vast difference between "news" and "opinion"?

So you do have a problem with the liberal-leaning bias of the other stations? That's funny, you've never mentioned it. You call Fox News "Faux News". I've never heard you knock CBS or any of the other news stations.