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07-20-2010, 07:57 PM
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07-20-2010, 08:03 PM
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Val's Prince.
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07-20-2010, 08:19 PM
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07-20-2010, 08:29 PM
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If they ran Sea Hero in consistent races perhaps he would have been better at 4. His first start was a sprint (7f), then a main track route,. then a middle distance turf race, then a marathon turf race, etc. It seems like they were experimenting the whole season. He ran fairly well against fellow Grade 1 winner Fourstars Allstars in a 8.5f allowance (IIRC in 1:39+), so I'm not sure why they didn't pursue a miler type campaign. I think his next start off that race was the Sword Dancer at 12f.
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07-20-2010, 08:30 PM
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07-20-2010, 08:32 PM
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Correct on Cetewayo.
His Grade 1 wins came 4 years apart. Val's Prince was actually 2nd to him in the first one.
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07-20-2010, 08:35 PM
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 Grade 1 winner. Name him.
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07-20-2010, 08:36 PM
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07-20-2010, 08:38 PM
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07-20-2010, 08:38 PM
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07-20-2010, 08:40 PM
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 One of the better 2yo turfers. Name him.
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07-20-2010, 08:47 PM
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Cryptic Rascal
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07-20-2010, 08:49 PM
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Correct.
I was a big fan of the NJ Bred filly who smoked him in the Jersey Derby .. she went downhill after that though. The great Who Did it And Run.
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07-20-2010, 08:52 PM
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Some one-off turf horses:
1) This champion juvenile and favorite for at least 2 of the 3 classics the following year, won his only turf start (The Tell) as a prep for the Travers. I think he was DQ'd from the win actually. 2) This lightly raced colt, trained by a HOF jockey, was 5th in the Arkansas Derby, his stakes debut. He was also 5th in the Kentucky Derby, Jockey Club Gold Cup, and BC Classic. Off his Derby effort, he one the restricted Relaunch at Del Mar in his only turf start. He later won the Malibu and Strub, but was unplaced in the San Fernando. 3) This colt was the "best maiden in the country" in '95, having placed in the Norfolk and Hollywood Futurity flanking an unplaced try Unbridled's Song's BC Juvenile. After breaking his maiden he won the San Felipe but missed the Triple Crown. He came back on the turf, winning the Volante (now the Oak Tree Derby), but I don't think ever ran again. 4) This colt ran 3rd in his only grass start, the minor Pirate Cove Stakes at Santa Anita, prior to his coming out party in the San Felipe in the mud, where he dusted Brocco and Valiant Nature.
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07-20-2010, 08:57 PM
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2 is Diazo.
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07-20-2010, 08:59 PM
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I'm pretty sure 4 is Soul of The Matter - don't know the other two.
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07-20-2010, 09:01 PM
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07-20-2010, 09:03 PM
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07-20-2010, 09:07 PM
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07-20-2010, 09:09 PM
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Yes on Odyle and Chief's Crown.
The other answer can be found on DRF.com in the Dan Ilman blog. I just noticed he put up the PP's for the '94 BC Classic, which is a decent hint. I was actually just about to put a question about the much DT-maligned Best Pal and his two good grass efforts up, but he was in that BC Classic as well.
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