Chief Douche Bag

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Put it this way...

I would book action on an IQ test between the two. You don't become President of the Harvard Law Review by making up new words like strategory.

But, but, teleprompter!!!!!

[joeydb]

Bush went to Harvard AND Yale. Not exactly known for admitting dummies either.

Originally Posted by joeydb

Bush went to Harvard AND Yale. Not exactly known for admitting dummies either.

Yeah but nepotism has its advantages.

Bush is not a re re but he's clearly one of the least intelligent presidents of all time.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle634182.ece

and he's clearly lacking in...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openness_to_experience

You can dislike Obama but you would be a fool to bet against him in a battle of wits against either Bush.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah but nepotism has its advantages.

Bush is not a re re but he's clearly one of the least intelligent presidents of all time.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle634182.ece

and he's clearly lacking in...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openness_to_experience

You can dislike Obama but you would be a fool to bet against him in a battle of wits against either Bush.

Really? Bush Sr. was pretty sharp. Ever see his experience record?

And I knew the alleged nepotism was going to come up. Are we to assume that there was no advantage given to Obama, at all? I find that hard to believe.

Originally Posted by joeydb

Really? Bush Sr. was pretty sharp. Ever see his experience record?

And I knew the alleged nepotism was going to come up. Are we to assume that there was no advantage given to Obama, at all? I find that hard to believe.

Bush Sr. relished in nepotism as well.

Sure Obama had some advantages like affirmative action but if given the choice would you rather be an impoverished minority benefiting from government entitlements or would you prefer to be the descendant of a filthy rich family with access to basically anything your heart desires?

Exactly.

[joeydb]

It's too bad we can't interview the person who was turned down so that Obama could attend Harvard via "Affirmative Action".

Or anybody turned down so that, if you're correct, nepotism could prevail in Bush's favor.

The answer in both cases is a pure merit system.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

why? he has NO respect for the American people.
this clown snubbed the Boy Scout jamboree for the view. the Pres speaking at the Scout Jamboree is a tradition.

so you think he should choke to death for snubbing the boy scouts?

Originally Posted by joeydb

It's too bad we can't interview the person who was turned down so that Obama could attend Harvard via "Affirmative Action".

Or anybody turned down so that, if you're correct, nepotism could prevail in Bush's favor.

The answer in both cases is a pure merit system.

Why would we want to interview someone who went to another school and more than likely ended up being successful?

I'm not saying nepotism is fundamentally wrong nor would I lie and say that I wouldn't slapdick my way through life like Dubya did and snort coke until my motor skills deteriorated to the point where I was stuck with a permanent dumbfounded expression on my face...

Just like I'm not saying Affirmative Action is fundamentally wrong and I wouldn't take advantage of it if I was a minority and had no other means of attending college and/or getting a job due to a country that, for the most part, is run by white guys.

What I'm saying is I respect Obama more than Bush. He's had a tougher road and no doubt has faced way more adversity than Jr.

He's someone african-americans should look up to. He lets them know that it is possible to achieve great things in a country that enslaved their great-grandparents.

[Honu]

Bullpucky!!!! He was hand fed and gifted all the paths to higher education and a job in politics if he wasnt then you tell me how the poor little guy from Hawaii with no Daddy has gotten where he has. He is a made man just like others before him its just that he wasnt made by family money he was made by wealthy benafactors who have seasoned him to fullfill their agenda.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Very good observation you just made. I wouldnt want to on a show with Elizabeth Hasselback. She has to one the most annoying person on television.

Ever since I took the Evelyn Woodhead sped ridin course, my ridin has im-PRO-v'd won-der-FULL-y. I ricommend these Evelyn Woodhed Speed Riddin Course to all my frens out there and you tell 'em that you heard it here first... on Roller Derby

Originally Posted by Honu

Bullpucky!!!! He was hand fed and gifted all the paths to higher education and a job in politics if he wasnt then you tell me how the poor little guy from Hawaii with no Daddy has gotten where he has. He is a made man just like others before him its just that he wasnt made by family money he was made by wealthy benafactors who have seasoned him to fullfill their agenda.

That is laughable.

He lived in Indonesia for 4 years and moved back to Hawaii with his grandparents and attended a private school on scholarship.

Not exactly living like a Kennedy.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Honu

Bullpucky!!!! He was hand fed and gifted all the paths to higher education and a job in politics if he wasnt then you tell me how the poor little guy from Hawaii with no Daddy has gotten where he has. He is a made man just like others before him its just that he wasnt made by family money he was made by wealthy benafactors who have seasoned him to fullfill their agenda.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[herkhorse]

Coach is owning this thread, and that's pretty impressive considering he bashes Obama on a regular basis. I'd give him 10 pies.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh I dont, well go see what kind of 411 you get on his records from Columbia he was a B plus student. Beleive me I do tend to research things a little bit before I post here esp about the POTUS.
A private school in Hawaii is like going to a good school in Iowa, they arent exactly known for their quality of education publicly or privately. He may have not lived like a Kennedy but he was molded like one later in life. So you tell me how a kid with no Daddy and no money and no real connections gets as far as he has. He was in school and then he was in politics and you dont think anyone helped him along the way? Can I get a hiit of some of your cush?

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Coach is owning this thread, and that's pretty impressive considering he bashes Obama on a regular basis. I'd give him 10 pies.

And it's ridiculous that I have to defend him against Bush but quite frankly I'm sick of the comparisons.

It's like this..

"Yo dawg, take this turd and Kiwi polish and see if you can make it sparkle in 18 months...if not, you're horrible and dumber than Bush."

No, just no.

[Danzig]

it's like choosing between turd sandwich and douche bag. obama no doubt is smarter.
neither one has managed to do much of anything good for the country, so what does it matter anyway?

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's like choosing between turd sandwich and douche bag. obama no doubt is smarter.
neither one has managed to do much of anything good for the country, so what does it matter anyway?

He still has time to make things better.

There aren't many scenarios where I see him making a bigger mistake than Iraq. Only a daddy's boy like Bush would f.uck up that bad.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's like choosing between turd sandwich and douche bag. obama no doubt is smarter.
neither one has managed to do much of anything good for the country, so what does it matter anyway?

Well that's a different conversation. People are trying to conflate what they think about his policies and leadership with how smart he is, which is why every time someone in here earlier said "well, I'm not so sure he's smarter," they would back it up with "well, I'm not better off than I was 19 months ago" and "OIL SPILL!"

Neither of which have anything whatsoever to do with whether he's smart of not, which is completely why Coach is owning this thread, because he's apparently the only one who can keep the conversation straight.

Really though, if there's a soul out there who legitimately thinks that there is even the slightest chance that Dubya is smarter/more intelligent than Obama, they should get their head checked. Policies are one thing to disagree with, but the actual intelligence conversation should be pretty one and done.

And his leadership has been pisspoor since about 3 weeks into office, so I'm essentially sick of him too at this point.

I am extremely disappointed with his foreign policy. I was naively hoping he would bring our troops home and let Iraq and Afghanistan eat cake.

Americans can be conditioned to embrace peace. Shocking, I know.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I am extremely disappointed with his foreign policy. I was naively hoping he would bring our troops home and let Iraq and Afghanistan eat cake.

Americans can be conditioned to embrace peace. Shocking, I know.

I'm extremely disappointed in quite a bit, the least of which is what you're talking about. If he's going to compromise his chances of getting re-elected, I wish he'd at least have gotten a healthcare bill with some teeth passed, I hate the wars which up to this point have been no different than his predecessor, just today he moved to expand the government's ability to willy-nilly get information on people with nothing more than the stroke of a pen, and he's languishing behind on very simple campaign promises that I care about very much.

Basically, he sucks, but he's still not the anti-Christ, and he's still at least marginally better than what came before him.

As I mentioned somewhere (not sure if it was here), after the Shirley Sherrod clowncar extravaganza, he should be happy the election is not being held today -- because I'd go vote for local politicians and leave the President spot blank. I have no desire at all to go vote for someone who is only a sliver better than any generic Republican counterpart. If I wanted someone who was going to do all the things I didn't want them to do, I'd have voted for McCain in the first place.