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Old 02-22-2011, 07:28 PM
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Completely disagree.

The prison system needs to be cut drastically. Some states are actually paying private companies 10-25% more than what it would cost the state to run a prison.

Less prisons, More common sense on non-violent offenders.


This is the key. I thin.. know that the justice system in this country is corrupt and unjust. I am against the death penalty. I don't trust the system to get it right. I was saying it makes as much sense as High Speed Rail and Nationwide 6G coverage ( that the Govt. wants the authority to shut off at their whim, while they admonish other countries for doing the same). Are the new phones that everyone(remember wealth distribution) is going to need to take advantage of this new Govt. provided wonder to be paid for by us taxpayers? Will the computers and phones be made in America? Will it use more electricity(read Energy) to keep running and recharging all of these devices? Will it not create more Global Warming? Pay attention.
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Old 02-22-2011, 07:43 PM
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Cut off all aid. Yeah I know the poor starving people and all that bull shitz, screw em until their corrupt, inept government does something about these azzholes. Enough is enough we should just send them some napalm care packages....... they contribute nothing to the rest of the world.
I dont think there is a formal govt in place in Somolia. I also don't think we send them very much aid money.
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Old 02-22-2011, 07:46 PM
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That's what I wanted to find out from Wing, that he didn't answer - Illinois, many years back, put a time limit on someone's ability to collect welfare. Like 2 years or something. Wonder if it's still in effect.

I wonder about people like Congresswoman and Tea Party queen Michelle Bachmann, who raised 23 foster kids - that alot of monthly government checks, combined with her government farms subsidies.
So you are criticizing someone who raised 23 foster children because she received gov't money to help defray the expenses?
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Old 02-22-2011, 07:49 PM
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Don't worry, the GOP is about to strip the EPA of their ability to regulate anything. You'll have acid rain and poisonous water back before you can say "liberals suck".
you left out Global Warming


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Old 02-22-2011, 07:51 PM
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I dont think there is a formal govt in place in Somolia. I also don't think we send them very much aid money.
They live in squalor. Talk about poor.
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They live in squalor. Talk about poor.
If only they had high speed rail, and unlimited internet access, and an electric receptacle to plug it into, and a stable Govt. to tell them what to do.,
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Completely disagree.

The prison system needs to be cut drastically. Some states are actually paying private companies 10-25% more than what it would cost the state to run a prison.

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So you are criticizing someone who raised 23 foster children because she received gov't money to help defray the expenses?
it's apparent that welfare is good, whereas foster parenting is bad. it's a racket you see...

oh, wait. that woman she talked about must not be a democrat. were she a democrat, she'd be up for woman of the year.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:35 PM
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So you are criticizing someone who raised 23 foster children because she received gov't money to help defray the expenses?
I personally think it's awesome. I'm just jumping on the "awful government-freebie-taking handout queen" meme. What's the matter, that ship full? Queen of the Tea Party gets all her money from the government - job, kids, farm.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:39 PM
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If only they had high speed rail, and unlimited internet access, and an electric receptacle to plug it into, and a stable Govt. to tell them what to do.,
Or, or ... food! And no people killing them!
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That's what I wanted to find out from Wing, that he didn't answer - Illinois, many years back, put a time limit on someone's ability to collect welfare. Like 2 years or something. Wonder if it's still in effect.

I wonder about people like Congresswoman and Tea Party queen Michelle Bachmann, who raised 23 foster kids - that alot of monthly government checks, combined with her government farms subsidies.
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I dont think there is a formal govt in place in Somolia. I also don't think we send them very much aid money.
Only over a 100 million most years and close to 140 million in the last fiscal year.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:40 AM
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i don't know/care whether the navy should patrol that area-but i'm not quite sure where the cost analysis is coming from. our sailors and ships are at sea more often than not, i doubt the cost would increase if they chose to patrol that area. i've never understood why the price is an argument, it's not as tho the navy isn't getting paid or using funds if there is no official action; there's always action.

as for the aid to somalia, it's probably in the form of food and medicine, and the price mentioned is a drop in the our vast budgetary bucket. people bemoan foreign aid, but our military expenditure far surpasses that. if we could actually raise foreign aid a few percentage points and buy some peace, and lower our military budget by the same percentage-we'd make money. i don't think people realize just how much of our budget goes to defense spending.
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the price mentioned is a drop in the our vast budgetary bucket.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:15 AM
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i don't know/care whether the navy should patrol that area-but i'm not quite sure where the cost analysis is coming from. our sailors and ships are at sea more often than not, i doubt the cost would increase if they chose to patrol that area. i've never understood why the price is an argument, it's not as tho the navy isn't getting paid or using funds if there is no official action; there's always action.

as for the aid to somalia, it's probably in the form of food and medicine, and the price mentioned is a drop in the our vast budgetary bucket. people bemoan foreign aid, but our military expenditure far surpasses that. if we could actually raise foreign aid a few percentage points and buy some peace, and lower our military budget by the same percentage-we'd make money. i don't think people realize just how much of our budget goes to defense spending.
how much of that foreign aid just ends up staying with the despots? Defense of this country is one of the things congress and the president are supposed to do.

I agree with the bolded part of your argument
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it's apparent that welfare is good, whereas foster parenting is bad. it's a racket you see...

oh, wait. that woman she talked about must not be a democrat. were she a democrat, she'd be up for woman of the year.

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Even if I was a rich mofo with a yacht, I would have a personal no sail zone near Somalia. Just sayin.
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