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Old 04-03-2011, 12:24 PM
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Quiet represents the majority of Americans. That's what they believe. We, as Americans, love giving up our freedom of speech and various other rights.

If you want to burn books, go for it. If you want to kill people who had nothing to do with it...well it's ok because some white man, the devil, burned a book on the other side of the globe.
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Old 04-03-2011, 04:29 PM
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I really don't like political things, but this really isn't political---or maybe it is.



Money is not the root of all evil, but hate is.

Hate is more responsible for deaths than anything.

Hate of a person,hate of a benign act,hate of a country,race,religion or creed.....and even hate of an obnoxious yet innocuous sports fan.



And it makes it all the more remarkable what that guy,be he the son of God or a man,said.....''Love thy enemy."



Boy, did he know what he was talking about.

Sad to say,I have hated.

But I'm not anymore....gosh I hope not.



I renounce my hatred of the FOF and DUMB CORPS and forgive them .I will also stop calling them names.This isn't going to be easy,but I will.
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Old 04-03-2011, 05:10 PM
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Lets take this place over, Kareem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmD3vfudlDU
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Old 04-03-2011, 11:33 PM
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huh, are you equating burning a book with killing a dozen people?
is that what you took from my post?
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:02 AM
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is that what you took from my post?
That's why I asked. I didn't understand that post. Please explain what you meant then.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:23 PM
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Yea blame him!
I didn't. I blamed the Taliban. Duh.

Geeshes, Dell - learn how to read.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:36 PM
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That's pretty comical. American's aren't in danger because of this clown. They are in danger because they are Americans and many of bad guys are just blood thirsty radical animals that put no value on life.
What I said, was:

The Taliban, in concert with the local religious leaders, is clearly involved in the latest violence. It's all about whipping up the anti-American froth. It's just an excuse.

Yes, I agree the Taliban is just blood thirsty radical animals with no value on life.

But yeah - when the Taliban uses the clown in Florida to incite violence against our troops in Afghanistan, yeah - that puts Americans in danger.
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:08 PM
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Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs sums it up well:

"The rioters who murdered UN workers and ran amok today in Kandahar are responsible for their actions. But Terry Jones, who was warned repeatedly by top US officials that violence would be the result, is also responsible for his actions. Jones is a pathetic coward who put the lives of others on the line in order to make a statement of pure bigotry. And more than a dozen are now dead because of it.

In this country, Jones has the constitutional right to burn any book he feels like burning. Should he be punished for this? Not legally, no. But this disgusting, deliberately provocative act does not deserve anyone’s support, and Jones is no hero for free speech. He’s a twisted, amoral man hiding behind religion — just like the Afghan imams who incited these crowds to violence."
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:21 PM
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Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs sums it up well:

"The rioters who murdered UN workers and ran amok today in Kandahar are responsible for their actions. But Terry Jones, who was warned repeatedly by top US officials that violence would be the result, is also responsible for his actions. Jones is a pathetic coward who put the lives of others on the line in order to make a statement of pure bigotry. And more than a dozen are now dead because of it.

In this country, Jones has the constitutional right to burn any book he feels like burning. Should he be punished for this? Not legally, no. But this disgusting, deliberately provocative act does not deserve anyone’s support, and Jones is no hero for free speech. He’s a twisted, amoral man hiding behind religion — just like the Afghan imams who incited these crowds to violence."
Exactly!
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[Terry Jones] He’s a twisted, amoral man hiding behind religion — just like the Afghan imams who incited these crowds to violence."
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What I said, was:

The Taliban, in concert with the local religious leaders, is clearly involved in the latest violence. It's all about whipping up the anti-American froth. It's just an excuse.

Yes, I agree the Taliban is just blood thirsty radical animals with no value on life.

But yeah - when the Taliban uses the clown in Florida to incite violence against our troops in Afghanistan, yeah - that puts Americans in danger.
The point I'm trying to make is that even if the pastor was out of the equation, the troops or anyone that is American for that matter would be in danger anyway. They don't need any reasons to kill Americans.

By you bringing up the pastor is almost like some sort of justifucation for them going around killing people.
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The point I'm trying to make is that even if the pastor was out of the equation, the troops or anyone that is American for that matter would be in danger anyway. They don't need any reasons to kill Americans.

By you bringing up the pastor is almost like some sort of justifucation for them going around killing people.
Absolutely not...there is no justification for murder. But this guy was warned in the past that his burning the book could excite folks and make a dangerous situation that much more so. Remember, this bloodthirsty mob of animals didn't kill Americans but UN workers mainly from Africa. In the past 24 hours, riots have spread across the country with the predictable flag burning and hate America crowd using his actions as an excuse. I agree that it's tempting to say, "F them" let them go back to Taliban rule but the problem is that we've lost many American lives there and need a government free of the Taliban (and with them the terrorists plotting to attack us), so we need to have support of the people...and this crackpot's hateful act just set that back quite a bit.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:12 PM
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Excuse me but there is no f.ucking way you libs are going to make Jed Clampett equally as guilty as the morons who murdered innocent people.

There are levels of stupidity. The people you're defending are at the bottom of the barrel. Jed may be real dumb but he's not even on the same planet as those clowns in Afghanistan. They are the problem, not Tater.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:20 PM
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Excuse me but there is no f.ucking way you libs are going to make Jed Clampett equally as guilty as the morons who murdered innocent people.

There are levels of stupidity. The people you're defending are at the bottom of the barrel. Jed may be real dumb but he's not even on the same planet as those clowns in Afghanistan. They are the problem, not Tater.
Come on Coach, you can't read what we've been saying and conclude that we are defending the violent scum who murdered folks in the name of some garbage. Nor can you read our comments and conclude we are comparing the bigot with them. This is a case where it's not either/or, there are no good guys between Jed and the Afghanistan scum....his act had consequences and he's too full of hate to care, their actions deserve swift punishment to send a message that you can't murder innocent folks...period! Bigotry is vile and hateful, murder is murder...there is no equality of guilt but excusing Jed as a hapless loser misses the point.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:34 PM
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You either support freedom or you support murdering psychopaths.

Jed is exposing a staggering percentage of Muslims as nothing more than murderous, oppressive thugs.

Sometimes in life you have to make a choice. And giving up our freedoms because some idiot is instigating other idiots is COMPLETELY OUT OF THE F.UCKING QUESTION.

And you're wasting your breath if you think it's ever going to stop. Pick a side.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:43 PM
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You either support freedom or you support murdering psychopaths.

Jed is exposing a staggering percentage of Muslims as nothing more than murderous, oppressive thugs.

Sometimes in life you have to make a choice. And giving up our freedoms because some idiot is instigating other idiots is COMPLETELY OUT OF THE F.UCKING QUESTION.

And you're wasting your breath if you think it's ever going to stop. Pick a side.
I support freedom as much as anyone but with freedom comes responsibility. Millions of young men and women have died for our freedom, they understood as we must that freedom is never free! Jed has the right (paid for with the blood of many) to be a bigoted, hateful, idiot but when his behavior puts innocent lives at risk, he can't just sit back and smirk. His behavior was legal but morally corrupt and folks have a right to call him on it.
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This forum is starting to make me hate the word bigot. I see it at least 84 times a day here.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:46 PM
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Still not okay to yell FIRE in a crowded theatre, even in the name of freedom of speech

And, can we not refer to ******* Jones as Pastor?
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:53 PM
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However, I absolutely don't think the entire Western world should have backed down from showing images of there god, because they don't like it. That was shameful on our part, and the many, most notably a few of our Christian leaders who did put the blame on the cartoonist

Coach, Jed is no hero for exposing these murderous neandrethals, we already were aware. If I know there is a baby killer up the street, I'm no hero for bringing a few toddlers up and dropping them off at the doorstep, just to prove the point ad infinitum(?)

BTW, Jed Clampett isn't quite right here. C'mon! Jed had a natural sense of fairness and decency

Jethro maybe...
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:58 PM
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I support freedom as much as anyone but with freedom comes responsibility. Millions of young men and women have died for our freedom, they understood as we must that freedom is never free! Jed has the right (paid for with the blood of many) to be a bigoted, hateful, idiot but when his behavior puts innocent lives at risk, he can't just sit back and smirk. His behavior was legal but morally corrupt and folks have a right to call him on it.
Sorry but this topic is horses.hit in the grand scheme of things. If you're really worried about the troops, UN workers, etc. then you're crucifying the wrong guy.

We are currently fighting 3 wars, two of them we're fighting for oil. We're fighting for Exxon, BP, Hugo Chavez, and numerous dictators.

And now we're training and supplying al-qaeda in Libya.

Jed Clampett is the least of our problems.
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