Hey Riot

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

you need SERIOUS psychological help.....I mean that in a manner that meets your approval

Timm, do you think it's really okay - seriously - that Prosser should call his fellow justice a bitch?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Timm, do you think it's really okay - seriously - that Prosser should call his fellow justice a bitch?

Did he call a press conference to let the world know he thought she was a bitch, or did he tell her in passing that he felt that way? Only ONE of these ways is WRONG!!

Pomp and circumstance aside...probably wasnt the best way to talk that way to a political equal,as it were!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Did he call a press conference to let the world know he thought she was a bitch, or did he tell her in passing that he felt that way? Only ONE of these ways is WRONG!!

Yeah. So it's okay with you to call a fellow worker a bitch as long as the public doesn't find out.

Hey, Timm - when you see me defending those that get SSDI? Don't take it personally.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah. So it's okay with you to call a fellow worker a bitch as long as the public doesn't find out.

Hey, Timm - when you see me defending those that get SSDI? Don't take it personally.

I'm learning not to take anything you say personal, or serious! You trash too many people!

[Danzig]

wow. that was quite an effort to deflect attention about being wrong...

[Danzig]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62070.html


With all but one of the state high court justices present for the altercation, and offering widely different stories of what happened, Sauk County District Attorney Patricia Barrett, who was given the case by local prosecutors and law enforcement who recused themselves, decided not to pursue charges, she told the AP.

“The totality of the facts and the circumstances and all of the evidence that I reviewed did not support my filing criminal charges,” Barrett said.

Barrett did not disclose how she came to that decision, but said witnesses had different versions of what happened. She didn’t elaborate.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Barrett did not disclose how she came to that decision, but said witnesses had different versions of what happened. She didn’t elaborate.

Prosecutor can't go forward with that. She ran into his hands as she was attacking him, versus he went to her and tried to choke her. I doubt it will get better at that workplace. This was due to what happened over a legal decision they made.

This is a state Supreme Court. Sigh ...

Can't wait to read the investigation records Friday, though!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Prosecutor can't go forward with that. She ran into his hands as she was attacking him, versus he went to her and tried to choke her. I doubt it will get better at that workplace. This was due to what happened over a legal decision they made.

This is a state Supreme Court. Sigh ...

Can't wait to read the investigation records Friday, though!

So maybe nothing happened......

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah. So it's okay with you to call a fellow worker a bitch as long as the public doesn't find out..

Yes as long as the suit fits and that applies in this case. So proud of WI and can't wait to get back if this hurricane doesn't kill us.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

So maybe nothing happened......

no, it happened. it's all a conspiracy to protect a judge...at the expense of..a judge. makes perfect sense.

no, seriously-when there are conflicting witness reports, there's no case. i do not buy the story from the supposed victim tho, that she called the chief, but didn't intend to turn it into a criminal complaint-so why call the chief??

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Yes as long as the suit fits and that applies in this case. So proud of WI and can't wait to get back if this hurricane doesn't kill us.

When are you supposed to leave NY?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, seriously-when there are conflicting witness reports, there's no case. i do not buy the story from the supposed victim tho, that she called the chief, but didn't intend to turn it into a criminal complaint-so why call the chief??

She, the "supposed victim", just made it up? A justice with no history of anger or problems? Known for being nice? Against a justice with a defined history of anger and problems? And some of the other justices who witnessed that it did not factually occur took her side and lied for her? In front of other judges that also witnessed that it didn't happen? I don't buy that in the least.

Prosser isn't exonerated from anything. He's just not charged with battery. The Chief Justice is talking about making court deliberations public to force good behaviour. That's absurd (I think they must remain private). But that clearly shows there is a problem.

The investigation information is supposed to be released Friday. We'll all get to see what that says.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

So maybe nothing happened......

That means there are alot of lying judges on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

That means there are alot of lying judges on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Well...I think there should be a FULL investigation, then!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Well...I think there should be a FULL investigation, then!

Apparently it revealed lying judges on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

I think what happened is exactly what was initially reported by the justices (who, don't forget, are the ones that leaked this) - Prosser stepped up and put his hands around her neck, then immediately backed off. Similar to what he did when he lost his temper, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4zqhRn0Z6I

Yes, his behaviour is clearly non-confrontational and non-angry, compared to the "bitch" also interviewed.

If Prosser is so innocent, why isn't he filing libel charges against his fellow judges, and the multiple Democratic organizations that have put out campaign commercials describing him calling a different judge a "total bitch" and threatening to "destroy" her?

He's nothing more than a lucky workplace abuser.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Apparently it revealed lying judges on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

I think what happened is exactly what was initially reported by the justices (who, don't forget, are the ones that leaked this) - Prosser stepped up and put his hands around her neck, then immediately backed off. Similar to what he did when he lost his temper, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4zqhRn0Z6I

Yes, his behaviour is clearly non-confrontational and non-angry, compared to the "bitch" also interviewed.

If Prosser is so innocent, why isn't he filing libel charges against his fellow judges, and the multiple Democratic organizations that have put out campaign commercials describing him calling a different judge a "total bitch" and threatening to "destroy" her?

He's nothing more than a lucky workplace abuser.

See, we're both right!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

When are you supposed to leave NY?

Sunday hopefully early. Beautiful this am though.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

She, the "supposed victim", just made it up? A justice with no history of anger or problems? Known for being nice? Against a justice with a defined history of anger and problems? And some of the other justices who witnessed that it did not factually occur took her side and lied for her? In front of other judges that also witnessed that it didn't happen? I don't buy that in the least.

Prosser isn't exonerated from anything. He's just not charged with battery. The Chief Justice is talking about making court deliberations public to force good behaviour. That's absurd (I think they must remain private). But that clearly shows there is a problem.

The investigation information is supposed to be released Friday. We'll all get to see what that says.

too murky a case at this point to know who is lying, who is telling the truth. typically there are three sides to a story, his, hers, the truth. did she rush him? did he choke her? or was it more of what he said, that she went after him first? did he try to ward her off? did he call her a bitch and she went after him?
who knows? we won't ever know now. there's no way to know what happened without having been there.

one interesting point is that she claims she never wanted charges filed. it can't have been as serious as it's been made out to be if she didn't want to press charges to begin with.
also, you're amazed that anyone assumes innocence, but i'm just as amazed you were so sure of the mans guilt.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i'll see you in the playoffs

GO PHILLIES

I grew up (first 14 yrs) just outside of philly and went to many games at the Vet and I was at the last game of the '83 world series. Used to talk to Darren Daulton as a kid since we had weekend seats next to the bullpen. Moved to WI and have been 20+ year long suffering brewer fan. Never thought cutting a $2600 for playoff tickets would feel so good. Shoulld be fun, phils have a great team. Sneak peak Sept 9,10,11....

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

too murky a case at this point to know who is lying, who is telling the truth. typically there are three sides to a story, his, hers, the truth. did she rush him? did he choke her? or was it more of what he said, that she went after him first? did he try to ward her off? did he call her a bitch and she went after him?
who knows? we won't ever know now. there's no way to know what happened without having been there.

one interesting point is that she claims she never wanted charges filed. it can't have been as serious as it's been made out to be if she didn't want to press charges to begin with.
also, you're amazed that anyone assumes innocence, but i'm just as amazed you were so sure of the mans guilt.

Riot has assumed guilt from day 1 and now has no where to go except to state that they just didn't want to drag a justice thru a trial. She can't admit that nothing really happened and there was nothing to the story from day 1.