Republican Senate Nominee:"Victims Of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant"

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Originally Posted by Honu

I wish Barney Frank wasn't gay he makes the rest of us homo's seem like jackwagons.

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Originally Posted by Riot

No. There has already long been a federal act that no taxpayer dollars are used for abortion. They never have been, never will.

House Bill 3 was a deliberate attempt to infringe further upon American women's rights, based upon the religious views and zealotry of a few elected officials.

Over 40 bills have been passed in this current House regarding women's rights to procreation, trying to curtail them. Americans in certain Congressional districts elected a bunch of theocratic autocratic dictators to our House of Representatives.

That's absurd, and un-American, and I can't believe people try to justify this appalling assault on our American freedom and rights.

Would you post those bills for us all to read and enjoy?
Not some blog post about what the house has done, but the actual bills and how they are eliminating women's rights in this country.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

A chicken hawk Christian fundamentalist who latched onto the tea party after the fact and is a contradiction to the core values of the ORIGINAL party. AND he has until this afternoon to quit. I mean Hollywood couldn't make s.hit like this up.

F.uck you, liberal useless media. And **** you RINO scumbags and militant liberals who have infiltrated this party and bunched every tea party member into the same group as Al Qaeda.

And fu.ck every American who doesn't see through it. May you all be put in FEMA camps with the rest of us, you ignorant scum.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I love Coach's passion. We agree on alot but not all but I respect the fact that he speaks from the heart.

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Originally Posted by jms62

I love Coach's passion. We agree on alot but not all but I respect the fact that he speaks from the heart.

Politics is an exercise of the brain, patriotism comes from the heart.
He is truly concerned about the future of this country, with good reason.

[Riot]

The National Republican Party, this afternoon in Tampa, just officially approved Todd Akins position on rape as part of the 2012 National Party Platform:

Republicans drafting their party's official policy platform on Tuesday ratified a call for a Constitutional ban on abortion that makes no exceptions for rape or incest.

The vote to endorse the party's long-standing opposition to abortion and support for a "human life amendment" took place at a meeting of the GOP's official platform committee in Tampa, the site of next week's Republican National Convention.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Would you post those bills for us all to read and enjoy?
Not some blog post about what the house has done, but the actual bills and how they are eliminating women's rights in this country.

Sure. Here you go.

BTW, the Hyde Amendment, passed in 1976 and attached to all financing bills, legally prevents the US government from using any money to pay for abortion. It is 100% effective. No money from taxpayers has ever been used to fund an abortion.

Todd Akins and Paul Ryan co-sponsored 8 anti-abortion bills in the past two years, btw.

I hope the Library of Congress search on Congressional Bills meets your approval for "not a blog".

Click on this link, and you can read each individual bill. Obviously the bills are pages long, and cannot be posted here. Each bill, despite it's name, contains provisions restricting abortion and women's rights. You simply have to search on the term "abortion"

There are 38 bills from the Republican House this past two years, trying to restrict abortion and womens rights.

Again, go to the link I give, click on each bill to read it.

Search function:
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/Legislati...hp?&n=BillText

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

1 . Welfare Reform Act of 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.1135.IH][PDF]
2 . Welfare Reform Act of 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.1167.IH][PDF]
3 . Welfare Reform Act of 2011 (Introduced in Senate - IS)[S.1904.IS][PDF]
4 . Religious Liberty Protection Act of 2012 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.3982.IH][PDF]
5 . Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Year 2012 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.2583.RH][PDF]
6 . Making appropriations for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and related agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2012, and for other purposes. (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.3070.IH][PDF]
7 . Empowering Patients First Act (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.105.IH][PDF]
8 . Common Sense Health Reform Americans Actually Want Act (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.364.IH][PDF]
9 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.1599.PCS][PDF]
10 . Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Year 2012 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.2583.IH][PDF]
11 . Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.1.IH][PDF]
12 . Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2011 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[H.R.1.PCS][PDF]
13 . Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2011 (Engrossed in House [Passed House] - EH)[H.R.1.EH][PDF]
14 . Reform Americans Can Afford Act of 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.397.IH][PDF]
15 . Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, 2012 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.2434.RH][PDF]
16 . Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 2012 and 2013 (Introduced in Senate - IS)[S.1426.IS][PDF]
17 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.2596.RH][PDF]
18 . Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, 2012 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.1573.PCS][PDF]
19 . Empowering Patients First Act (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.3000.IH][PDF]
20 . Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, 2013 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.6020.RH][PDF]
21 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.3295.PCS][PDF]
22 . Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2012 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.3671.IH][PDF]
23 . Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2012 (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] - ENR)[H.R.2055.ENR][PDF]
24 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[H.R.5326.PCS][PDF]
25 . Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2012 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.1601.PCS][PDF]
26 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 (Engrossed in House [Passed House] - EH)[H.R.5326.EH][PDF]
27 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.1572.PCS][PDF]
28 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.5326.RH][PDF]
29 . Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[H.R.5855.PCS][PDF]
30 . Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2013 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.5857.RH][PDF]
31 . Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2013 (Engrossed in House [Passed House] - EH)[H.R.5855.EH][PDF]
32 . Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2013 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.5855.RH][PDF]
33 . Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.3301.PCS][PDF]
34 . Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2012 (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] - ENR)[H.R.2112.ENR][PDF]
35 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.2323.PCS][PDF]
36 . Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.3241.PCS][PDF]
37 . Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012 (Engrossed Amendment Senate - EAS)[H.R.2112.EAS][PDF]
38 . Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012 (Public Print - PP)[H.R.2112.PP][PDF]

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Only Riot would know the goings on at CNN. I guess they count her as 1000 viewers.

No, I never watch CNN, thanks.

This whole mess is extremely convenient when you take the rose colored glasses off.

A chicken hawk Christian fundamentalist who latched onto the tea party after the fact and is a contradiction to the core values of the ORIGINAL party. AND he has until this afternoon to quit. I mean Hollywood couldn't make s.hit like this up.

Wake up.

Akins represents the views of the National Republican Party. He's not an outlier, he's the mainstream of the party.

The party just voted his very abortion views into the 2012 party platform this afternoon, as a constitutional amendment support for no abortion, ever, not even in case of rape or incest.

Rove and the National Senate Re-election Committee may have said they'd pull their financing, but they need this senate seat.

The financing will be there tomorrow, as will Todd Akins in the race. He polled best against McCaskill. The GOP needs to take the Senate to own the Supreme Court. If they don't take Missouri they lose Senate chance.

The Dems will hang Akins around Ryan's neck as they should, they are inseparable and co-sponsored 8 anti-abortion bills together.

The GOP has pretty much degenerated into right-wing authoritarianism. The Republican party is owned by Tea Bag loons.

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First bill.

Nothing in this title shall be construed as restricting
25 the ability of any non-Federal health benefits coverage
VerDate Mar 15 2010 23:48 Mar 17, 2011 Jkt 099200 PO 00000 Frm 00050 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H1135.IH H1135 smartinez on DSKB9S0YB1PROD with BILLS
51
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1 provider from offering abortion coverage, or the ability of
2 a State or locality to contract separately with such a pro3
vider for such coverage, so long as only funds not author4
ized or appropriated by Federal law are used and such
5 coverage shall not be purchased using matching funds re6
quired for a federally subsidized program, including a
7 State’s or locality’s contribution of Medicaid matching
8 funds.
9 SEC. 606. TREATMENT OF ABORTIONS RELATED TO RAPE,
10 INCEST, OR PRESERVING THE LIFE OF THE
11 MOTHER.
12 The limitations established in this title shall not apply
13 to an abortion—
14 (1) if the pregnancy is the result of an act of
15 rape or incest; or

it goes on, only about not paying for it.
I will allow you to pull the rest of the legal language from each and explain what is different and how it restricts the rights of women.

Originally Posted by Riot

No, I never watch CNN, thanks.



Wake up.

Akins represents the views of the National Republican Party. He's not an outlier, he's the mainstream of the party.

The party just voted his very abortion views into the 2012 party platform this afternoon, as a constitutional amendment support for no abortion, ever, not even in case of rape or incest.

Rove and the National Senate Re-election Committee may have said they'd pull their financing, but they need this senate seat.

The financing will be there tomorrow, as will Todd Akins in the race. He polled best against McCaskill. The GOP needs to take the Senate to own the Supreme Court. If they don't take Missouri they lose Senate chance.

The Dems will hang Akins around Ryan's neck as they should, they are inseparable and co-sponsored 8 anti-abortion bills together.

The GOP has pretty much degenerated into right-wing authoritarianism. The Republican party is owned by Tea Bag loons.

Both parties are owned by anti-human loons and you're too dense to see it.

I don't need party lessons from your stupid ass. Thanks though.

[bigrun]

Been busy few days and i know ya'll been missing the cartoons...Here's some topical ones for your pleasure..



Akin and the War on Women cartoons!
On the first one read all the messages on the t-shirts, i like the one on bottom left..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

First bill.

Nothing in this title shall be construed as restricting
25 the ability of any non-Federal health benefits coverage
VerDate Mar 15 2010 23:48 Mar 17, 2011 Jkt 099200 PO 00000 Frm 00050 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H1135.IH H1135 smartinez on DSKB9S0YB1PROD with BILLS
51
•HR 1135 IH
1 provider from offering abortion coverage, or the ability of
2 a State or locality to contract separately with such a pro3
vider for such coverage, so long as only funds not author4
ized or appropriated by Federal law are used and such
5 coverage shall not be purchased using matching funds re6
quired for a federally subsidized program, including a
7 State’s or locality’s contribution of Medicaid matching
8 funds.
9 SEC. 606. TREATMENT OF ABORTIONS RELATED TO RAPE,
10 INCEST, OR PRESERVING THE LIFE OF THE
11 MOTHER.
12 The limitations established in this title shall not apply
13 to an abortion—
14 (1) if the pregnancy is the result of an act of
15 rape or incest; or

it goes on, only about not paying for it.
I will allow you to pull the rest of the legal language from each and explain what is different and how it restricts the rights of women.

Are you crazy? Read what you wrote - read page 50 - this bill MEANS TESTS for WELFARE, and further restricts access to abortion by welfare recipients!

You are pulling out random words without reading the entire bill.

If you want to make the argument that the current Republican House has introduced no bills restricting womens rights and attempting to restrict further abortion rights, you can stand alone in the face of overwhelming public evidence and discussion of the same, starting with House Bill 3.

It is a factually bereft position - even the Republicans say why they are submitting the bills, and what is contained within!

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PROHIBITION ON TAX BENEFITS RELATING TO
4 ABORTION.
5 For taxable years beginning after the date of the en6
actment of this section, no credit shall be allowed under
7 the internal revenue laws with respect to amounts paid
8 or incurred for an abortion or with respect to amounts
9 paid or incurred for a health benefits plan (including pre10
mium assistance) that includes coverage of abortion.
11 SEC. 604. CONSTRUCTION RELATING TO SEPARATE COV12
ERAGE.
13 Nothing in this title shall be construed as prohibiting
14 any individual, entity, or State or locality from purchasing
15 separate abortion coverage or health benefits coverage
16 that includes abortion so long as such coverage is paid
17 for entirely using only funds not authorized or appro18
priated by Federal law and such coverage shall not be pur19
chased using matching funds required for a federally sub20
sidized program, including a State’s or locality’s contribu21
tion of Medicaid matching funds.
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Originally Posted by Riot

Are you crazy? Read what you wrote - read page 50 - this bill MEANS TESTS for WELFARE, and further restricts access to abortion by welfare recipients!

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Originally Posted by Riot

Are you crazy? Read what you wrote - read page 50 - this bill MEANS TESTS for WELFARE, and further restricts access to abortion by welfare recipients!

You are pulling out random words without reading the entire bill.

If you want to make the argument that the current Republican House has introduced no bills restricting womens rights and attempting to restrict further abortion rights, you can stand alone in the face of overwhelming public evidence and discussion of the same, starting with House Bill 3. It is a factually bereft position - even the Republicans say why they are submitting the bills, and what is contained within!

Still looking for the restriction on women's rights, not what the federal government will pay for. Please site an example that says what you are accusing.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Still looking for the restriction on women's rights, not what the federal government will pay for. Please site an example that says what you are accusing.

Read page 50. It restricts welfare recipients right to abortions.

Seriously - are you taking the stand that the GOP has not introduced multiple bills into the Congress, in the past two years, restricting womens rights and increasing restrictions on abortion?

Yes or no? Is that your position, or not? Because if you are taking that position, it is simply wrong. Don't ask for "show me the bills" - I have. This isn't some conspiracy theory, it's been documented all over the news the past 2 years. Just read!

First month of new GOP House:

GOP Introduces Four Anti-Abortion Bills Into Congress; Other Women's Issues at Risk
http://www.seniorwomen.com/news/inde...issues-at-risk

Since taking control of the House last month, Republicans have introduced several major anti-abortion bills that women's rights activists say could place severe limitations on a access not only to abortion, but complete reproductive health and family planning services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbrMwwEbCA

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Originally Posted by Riot

Read page 50. It restricts welfare recipients right to abortions.

Seriously - are you taking the stand that the GOP has not introduced multiple bills into the Congress, in the past two years, restricting womens rights and increasing restrictions on abortion?

Yes or no? Is that your position, or not?

POST A QUOTE FROM THE BILL THAT SAYS WHAT YOU ARE ACCUSING. You have read the bill, pull page 50 and put it here and please explain which portion is restricting women's rights.

My position is that you are unable to prove any of what you allege with quoted documentation.
Are there republicans that are against abortion, of course there are, there are democrats too.
Is that a settled topic since 1973 in the minds of most people, yes.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Both parties are owned by anti-human loons and you're too dense to see it.

I don't need party lessons from your stupid ass. Thanks though.

You insulting moron, I have agreed before with you that both parties are a joke. Get a grip and stop posturing and lying about what I say.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

POST A QUOTE FROM THE BILL THAT SAYS WHAT YOU ARE ACCUSING. You have read the bill, pull page 50 and put it here and please explain which portion is restricting women's rights.

My position is that you are unable to prove any of what you allege with quoted documentation.
Are there republicans that are against abortion, of course there are, there are democrats too.
Is that a settled topic since 1973 in the minds of most people, yes.

I said this current congress has introduced over 40 bills to curtail abortion and womens rights.

You demand to see the bills.

I post 38 of them.

Again: if you are taking the position that the Republicans have not introduced multiple bills attempting to curtail abortion and women's rights, that's as easily proven wrong as reading todays news.

That's just a crazy, wrong position, as wrong as saying the sky is not blue. It's common knowlege. The GOP even brags about it. And you say it doesn't exist?

Seriously - is that what you are saying? Because that's so crazy, I'm trying to see if I am misunderstanding you.

Again:

First month of new GOP House, 2010

GOP Introduces Four Anti-Abortion Bills Into Congress; Other Women's Issues at Risk
http://www.seniorwomen.com/news/inde...issues-at-risk

Since taking control of the House last month, Republicans have introduced several major anti-abortion bills that women's rights activists say could place severe limitations on a access not only to abortion, but complete reproductive health and family planning services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbrMwwEbCA

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Originally Posted by Riot

I said this current congress has introduced over 40 bills to curtail abortion and womens rights.

You demand to see the bills.

I post 38 of them.

Again: if you are taking the position that the Republicans have not introduced multiple bills attempting to curtail abortion and women's rights, that's as easily proven wrong as reading todays news.

That's just a crazy, wrong position, as wrong as saying the sky is not blue. It's common knowlege. The GOP even brags about it. And you say it doesn't exist?

Seriously - is that what you are saying? Because that's so crazy, I'm trying to see if I am misunderstanding you.

Again:

First month of new GOP House, 2010

GOP Introduces Four Anti-Abortion Bills Into Congress; Other Women's Issues at Risk
http://www.seniorwomen.com/news/inde...issues-at-risk

Since taking control of the House last month, Republicans have introduced several major anti-abortion bills that women's rights activists say could place severe limitations on a access not only to abortion, but complete reproductive health and family planning services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbrMwwEbCA

lots of disclaimers in there. zero quotes.
You posted bills, I read the first one and saw nothing other than financial explanations.
I ask for a quote from a doc you posted that proves your point and I get a couple videos and potential effects as read by women's rights groups.
This is the process of debating you and the reason so few remain that are willing to do so.