How Selfish Can Omama Be

[hi_im_god]

how many weeks after the president releases his transcripts does a hard hitting joe arpaio investigation determine they were forgeries?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Trump's stunt has been criticized by most people with a brain for what it is. A stunt for attention.

You don't give attention seekers what they want. I can't put it any more simply than that.

I agree he needs/wants attention but with $5 million on the table for the taking and nothing more than releasing grades and transcripts what's the problem? Unless he's hiding something. And even if he is how bad would it be if Obama got a scholarship because he lied and said he was a foreign exchange student?

It's not like he's asking Obama to tea-bag him!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Speaking of Mitt Romney, he has "gone dark" for these last two weeks, refusing to speak to the press entirely. That means he's desperate not to make more gaffs in the last two weeks, and doesn't want to get caught out because he still has not revealed his taxes, nor explained how his disastrous financial "plan" can't work.

So this guy has managed to bully his way through a presidential, not revealing his income taxes (just enough to reveal he has massive tax havens and hidden income); no definitive plans for anything (only platitudes and generalities on his website); and has spent the past 2 weeks completely reversing every position he has taken during the campaign, in an appeal to "moderate" voters and while throwing the Republican platform under the bus, in a desperate attempt to gain power.

Romney with Paul Ryan is so incompetent to be president it's not even laughable. It's terrifying. Rick Santorum, Herman Cain, Mike Huckabee, Michelle Bachmann, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin - they are all one and the same regarding presidential timber.

Thank goodness, the last time we'll hear from this one is his concession speech Nov. 6. Then he's done with politics because "You People" anger his wife. Unlike Sarah Palin, Mittens won't be working at Faux.

So ... Republicans 2016: Big. Fat. Nothing. on their bench.

The Republicans don't have any qualified people. They need to start looking elsewhere to find qualified candidates. We all know that the most qualified candidates are "community organizers". Republicans need to search the pool of community organizers to find some good candidates.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

In the biography that accompanied Obama's book, it said he was born in Kenya. That biography was written by Obama's literary agent. You mentioned being gullible. You would have to be pretty gullible to believe that Obama's literary agency just made the whole thing up.

According to a promotional booklet produced by the agency, Acton & Dystel, to showcase its roster of writers, Obama was "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/...6#.UEo-ILJlTE5

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The Republicans don't have any qualified people. They need to start looking elsewhere to find qualified candidates. We all know that the most qualified candidates are "community organizers" who work at helping people escape poverty, register to vote, get hooked up with relief and poverty and housing programs - who have also worked as private sector lawyers, were president of Harvard Law Review graduating magna cum laude, were state senators, and were United States Senators on the Foreign Relations Committee. Republicans need to search the pool of community organizers to find some good candidates.

FTFY. You left something out in your attempt to denigrate the work of a community organizer.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

In the biography that accompanied Obama's book, it said he was born in Kenya. That biography was written by Obama's literary agent. You mentioned being gullible. You would have to be pretty gullible to believe that Obama's literary agency just made the whole thing up.

According to a promotional booklet produced by the agency, Acton & Dystel, to showcase its roster of writers, Obama was "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/...6#.UEo-ILJlTE5

That's right. The typo on a media handout - not the biography of the actual book - that was disallowed publicly by the publisher was really a secret plot, and the birth announcements in the Hawaiian news papers were telegraphed from Kenya.

If you are a birther, you are a delusional, gullible, loony conspiracy theorist. Period.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

how many weeks after the president releases his transcripts does a hard hitting joe arpaio investigation determine they were forgeries?

Donald Trump says it's big. It's really big. It's huge. He's sent investigators to Hawaii, and you won't believe what they've found.

Which was apparently nothing at all.

Because Trumps lies about that big Hawaiian investigator reveal died on the vine and he never spoke of those investigators again.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I agree he needs/wants attention but with $5 million on the table for the taking and nothing more than releasing grades and transcripts what's the problem? Unless he's hiding something. And even if he is how bad would it be if Obama got a scholarship because he lied and said he was a foreign exchange student?

It's not like he's asking Obama to tea-bag him!

Once again, he shouldn't do it because it gives credibility to people like Trump. It has nothing to do with hiding something.

Whether anyone likes it or not...he's the President. Why does the President have to do something because Donald Trump is pressuring him to? And if he did agree to do it, wouldn't it open up the possibility for anyone with money to do what Trump is trying to do?

where should it stop? Should the President jump through hoops anytime a guy with money requests something as long as he decides to donate the money for charity?

Come on man.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Once again, he shouldn't do it because it gives credibility to people like Trump. It has nothing to do with hiding something.

Whether anyone likes it or not...he's the President. Why does the President have to do something because Donald Trump is pressuring him to? And if he did agree to do it, wouldn't it open up the possibility for anyone with money to do what Trump is trying to do?

where should it stop? Should the President jump through hoops anytime a guy with money requests something as long as he decides to donate the money for charity?

Come on man.

Transparency! You know what Obama ran on?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

That's right. The typo on a media handout - not the biography of the actual book - that was disallowed publicly by the publisher was really a secret plot, and the birth announcements in the Hawaiian news papers were telegraphed from Kenya.

If you are a birther, you are a delusional, gullible, loony conspiracy theorist. Period.

A birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper is not evidence of anything. If your parents were going to announce the birth of your child in the newspaper, would they cancel the announcement if you gave birth overseas? I have never understood that argument. Obama's mom lived in Hawaii. She was pregnant in Hawaii. If she did in fact go to Kenya to be with Barack's father for the delivery, why would her parents not post news of the birth in the newspaper? Maybe Barack was born in Hawaii, but the newspaper announcement is not evidence of anything, one way or the other.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Transparency! You know what Obama ran on?

Kinda weak response there dell, you getting tired..take a break till after the election and come back firing when your boy is the Prez..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Transparency! You know what Obama ran on?

Yeah, Obama's been awfully transparent, releasing his effing birth certificate and all that, thanks.

I can't believe any elected President of these United States has been forced to do that by the conspiracy loons in this country.

Reminds me Mitt Romney hasn't released even 1 full year of taxes, and that revealed multiple attempts to hide money from the IRS. No transparency is the reason Romney will never be President.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

A birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper is not evidence of anything. If your parents were going to announce the birth of your child in the newspaper, would they cancel the announcement if you gave birth overseas? I have never understood that argument. Obama's mom lived in Hawaii. She was pregnant in Hawaii. If she did in fact go to Kenya to be with Barack's father for the delivery, why would her parents not post news of the birth in the newspaper? Maybe Barack was born in Hawaii, but the newspaper announcement is not evidence of anything, one way or the other.

Anybody who is a "birther is a delusional conspiracy loon

And I personally am convinced beyond a doubt that all birthers are racists. They are convinced this President, who was vetted by the US government before he could run for president, isn't an American. Yet they don't demand any white candidates birth certificate. Loony racism.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Once again, he shouldn't do it because it gives credibility to people like Trump. It has nothing to do with hiding something.

Whether anyone likes it or not...he's the President. Why does the President have to do something because Donald Trump is pressuring him to? And if he did agree to do it, wouldn't it open up the possibility for anyone with money to do what Trump is trying to do?

where should it stop? Should the President jump through hoops anytime a guy with money requests something as long as he decides to donate the money for charity?

Come on man.

I don't think it would give Trump credibility. If Obama took Trump up on the offer and he released the records and there was nothing significant in the records, Trump would look like a fool. Trump thinks the records will show that Obama was born in Kenya. If Obama released the records and it showed he was born in the US, Trump would be eating crow.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Kinda weak response there dell, you getting tired..take a break till after the election and come back firing when your boy is the Prez..

When a President refuses to answer whether he watched the video of American's dying or pretending to not hear the question despite everyone else hearing it, that's transparency?

[Riot]

The President already revealed Donald Trump as a conspiracy loon by releasing his long form birth certificate.

Trump has been eating crow.
Trump was proven wrong.
Trump is too stupid to realize he's become a laughingstock.

Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico, into a polygamist cult, and nobody is demanding Romney's birth certificate. Silence.

John Sununu, Mitt Romney's favorite dog-whistle blower, was born in Cuba. Silence.

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone. Nobody asks for his birth certificate. Silence.

Barack Obama's father was born in Kenya, yet the demands never shut up, even after all the facts show he was beyond a doubt born in Hawaii. That's racism.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

This is dumb....even for you.

If some liberal millionaire offered Romney 5 million dollars for any charity he wanted to tell people about his magical mystery tax plan that he repeatedly has refused to answer, would you advocate him doing it?

Try and be honest when you answer.

By the way, this notion that Romney has not released enough specific details of his tax plan is a total red herring. Romney has released more details than most Presidential candidates in the past. When has a Presidential candidate ever gotten more specific than Romney? Even the mainstream media has admitted that Romney has released far more details about his plan than not only Obama did in 2008, but most Presidential candidates over the years.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think it would give Trump credibility. If Obama took Trump up on the offer and he released the records and there was nothing significant in the records, Trump would look like a fool. Trump thinks the records will show that Obama was born in Kenya. If Obama released the records and it showed he was born in the US, Trump would be eating crow.

What you don't get is Trump already looks like a fool. This stunt of his backfired badly and the only ones who don't seem to get it are you and Dell.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

By the way, this notion that Romney has not released enough specific details of his tax plan is a total red herring. Romney has released more details than most Presidential candidates in the past. When has a Presidential candidate ever gotten more specific than Romney? Even the mainstream media has admitted that Romney has released far more details about his plan than not only Obama did in 2008, but most Presidential candidates over the years.

No, it's not.

But since I haven't seen the mainstream media admitting Romney has released far more details about his plan than Obama did in 2008, can you provide a link or something? Not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen it.

[Riot]

Romney's Other Credibility Problem: Glenn Hubbard
Posted: 10/27/2012 8:50 am

Mitt Romney has a credibility problem. He changes his beliefs like laundry (abortion, medical insurance, whether Bin Laden was worth killing, attacking Iran), refuses to disclose his tax returns, and won't explain how he could possibly pay for the tax cuts he proposes.

But there is another scandal in Romney's campaign -- namely Glenn Hubbard, Romney's chief economic advisor, who was chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors under George W. Bush, and is now Dean of Columbia Business School.

I interviewed Hubbard for my documentary film Inside Job, and analyzed his record again for my book Predator Nation. The film interview became famous because Hubbard blew his cool after I interrogated him about his conflicts of interest: "This isn't a deposition, sir. I was polite enough to give you time, foolishly I now see, but you have three more minutes. Give it your best shot." But the really important thing about Hubbard isn't his personality; it's that as an economist and an advisor, he is a total, unmitigated disaster.

First, Hubbard has an abysmal track record in economic policy, including the very issues that Romney has made the pillar of his Presidential campaign.

Second, like Romney, Hubbard refuses to disclose critical information about his income, conflicts of interest, and paid advocacy activities.

Third, both in public statements and in my personal experience, Hubbard has been evasive, misleading, and even dishonest when discussing both policy issues and his own conflicts of interest.

And last but not least, those conflicts of interest are huge: Hubbard has long advocated policies that Wall Street loves, often without disclosing that he is, in fact, highly paid by Wall Street.

Let's start with tax cuts, since Romney claims that he can cut tax rates sharply without increasing the deficit, and without benefiting the rich. Mr. Romney claims that tax cuts will be fully paid for by closing loopholes and deductions, and will not add to the deficit; Hubbard has publicly supported Romney's claims.

Interestingly, Mr. Hubbard has quite a record on this very issue. Shortly after becoming chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors in 2001, he spearheaded the Bush administration's tax cuts, and he said lots about them.

How did that work out? First, we now know that over half of the benefits of the Bush-Hubbard tax cuts went to the top 1% of the population.

In part to benefit the wealthy, the tax cuts were also structured to reward investment in financial assets, rather than either consumer spending or real capital investment.

As a result, the tax cuts caused huge budget deficits, yet did little to stimulate growth or job creation: There were basically no new jobs created during the Bush administration, despite adding trillions to the national debt.

Continued

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charle...b_2029609.html