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Old 12-13-2012, 10:05 AM
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Who goes to Yellowstone Park to see the most famous wolf in the world?
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:13 AM
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:01 PM
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Thanks for the sobering statistics showing now besides the maiming, disfiguring of our pets , the destruction of our lifestock and game that it is now gotten to the alarming point that within the last seven years wolfs are not only attacking people and maiming them, they are actually killing them. I think those in charge of conservation have indeed done the right thing. Dismissing Bleeding Heart Liberals such as yourself and doing what is right for the wildlife population and human population. I am glad they don't see life as a Disney movie but the reality that it is. I have all the confidence in the world once they curtail the exploding wolf population (if that ever happens) they will once again shut down the hunting season. Thank god for hunters, they truly are Awesome. Disclosure. I am not a hunter however I respect their right to hunt and will continue to defend them against Bleeding Heart Liberals trying to interject more government into our lives and take away that right.

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You always acted like I was a right winger. Now I'm a bleeding heart liberal all of a sudden? The more I think about it, I may be on the wrong side of this argument. Something needs to be done about these evil wolves! They are bad animals! They need to be killed!

Do you think there are too many government regulations when it comes to hunting (not just wolf hunting but all hunting)? Do you think there should be any regulations?
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:14 PM
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You always acted like I was a right winger. Now I'm a bleeding heart liberal all of a sudden?

Do you think there are too many government regulations when it comes to hunting (not just wolf hunting but all hunting)? Do you think there should be any regulations?
You are very much every thing the right wing is about. Contradiction. As far as do I think there should be more or less regulations, I am not a hunter so I am not the person to ask. That question would best be answered by Clip as he is a hunter. My gut is that those involved in conservation in this country take it very seriously and the regulations in place work.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:32 PM
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You are very much every thing the right wing is about. Contradiction. As far as do I think there should be more or less regulations, I am not a hunter so I am not the person to ask. That question would best be answered by Clip as he is a hunter. My gut is that those involved in conservation in this country take it very seriously and the regulations in place work.
I don't contradict myself at all. I think there should be strong regulation on activities that affect other people. There should be no regulation on things that don't affect other people. I should be able to do whatever I want in the privacy of my own home. If I'm blasting my music and disturbing other people, that is a different story.

As I said in a previous post, I should not be able to go to a park and chop down a giant tree because it is not my tree and some people may like that tree. I would say the same thing for shooting an animal. If you have a situation where a herd of animals absolutely has to be trimmed for their own good, then hunting may be ok, if there is no reasonable alternative (such as relocating the animals).
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:03 PM
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In Pennsylvania alone last year there were 14,000 reported accidents and 41 deaths caused by deer being hit by cars. Certainly hunting helps reduce this number and it is still out of control.

An average year sees 350,000 deer shot legally in PA, where would you like to relocate them and who will pay for it?
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:07 PM
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I don't contradict myself at all. I think there should be strong regulation on activities that affect other people. There should be no regulation on things that don't affect other people. I should be able to do whatever I want in the privacy of my own home. If I'm blasting my music and disturbing other people, that is a different story.

As I said in a previous post, I should not be able to go to a park and chop down a giant tree because it is not my tree and some people may like that tree. I would say the same thing for shooting an animal. If you have a situation where a herd of animals absolutely has to be trimmed for their own good, then hunting may be ok, if there is no reasonable alternative (such as relocating the animals).
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:09 PM
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In Pennsylvania alone last year there were 14,000 reported accidents and 41 deaths caused by deer being hit by cars. Certainly hunting helps reduce this number and it is still out of control.

An average year sees 350,000 deer shot legally in PA, where would you like to relocate them and who will pay for it?
Government and then blame it on Obama. Also good luck trapping these guys. I say relocate them to someones refrigerator.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:12 PM
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In Pennsylvania alone last year there were 14,000 reported accidents and 41 deaths caused by deer being hit by cars. Certainly hunting helps reduce this number and it is still out of control.
When people live in areas inhabited by animals, that is going to happen. What is the answer? Should we kill all the animals so that there will be no more car accidents?

Animals have just as much right to inhabit the country as we do. I realize there are situations where a herd gets so big that something needs to be done.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:15 PM
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When people live in areas inhabited by animals, that is going to happen. What is the answer? Should we kill all the animals so that there will be no more car accidents?

Animals have just as much right to inhabit the country as we do. I realize there are situations where a herd gets so big that something needs to be done.
We have a hunting season to cull the herd. Wild idea I know. Also I missed
"Animals have just as much right to inhabit the country as we do." I missed that, is it in the Bill of Rights or was it an Amendment? You are silly.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:22 PM
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In Pennsylvania alone last year there were 14,000 reported accidents and 41 deaths caused by deer being hit by cars. Certainly hunting helps reduce this number and it is still out of control.

An average year sees 350,000 deer shot legally in PA, where would you like to relocate them and who will pay for it?
There is a possibility that hunting is the only feasible alternative in Pennsylvania. I couldn't tell you. I don't know what the situation is there. If there was a place to relocate the deer, I would say that people like JMS should pay for it. He likes the government to spend other people's money on programs they don't want. Let's see the government spend JMS' money on programs he doesn't want and let's see how he likes it.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:25 PM
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We have a hunting season to cull the herd. Wild idea I know. Also I missed
"Animals have just as much right to inhabit the country as we do." I missed that, is it in the Bill of Rights or was it an Amendment? You are silly.
You think that is a controversial statement? I think practically everyone would agree that animals have just as much a right to live as we do. Animals obviously don't have the same Constitutional rights as humans, but they still have a right to inhabit the earth.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:28 PM
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There is a possibility that hunting is the only feasible alternative in Pennsylvania. I couldn't tell you. I don't know what the situation is there. If there was a place to relocate the deer, I would say that people like JMS should pay for it. He likes the government to spend other people's money on programs they don't want. Let's see the government spend JMS' money on programs he doesn't want and let's see how he likes it.
Not true. The Trillion plus dollars we spent on the war is money that I don't want the government to spend. What is funny is you don't even realize how beyond absurd a "Relocation" of deer effort sounds to anyone living in reality. Now go back and enjoy your Disney channel.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:31 PM
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You think that is a controversial statement? I think practically everyone would agree that animals have just as much a right to live as we do. Animals obviously don't have the same Constitutional rights as humans, but they still have a right to inhabit the earth.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:33 PM
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Not true. The Trillion plus dollars we spent on the war is money that I don't want the government to spend. What is funny is you don't even realize how beyond absurd a "Relocation" of deer effort sounds to anyone living in reality. Now go back and enjoy your Disney channel.
I'll watch the Disney channel and you can watch the hunting channel. Is there a hunting channel?
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:42 PM
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I am somewhat skeptical of statistics coming from a site whose content creator doesn't know the difference between "lose" and "loose." Or that there is no "e" in "Grizzly."
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I'll watch the Disney channel and you can watch the hunting channel. Is there a hunting channel?
You are really outspoken about something that is clear to everyone you know absolutely nothing about. The industry you want to put out of existence is a 3 Billion dollar industry.
Hunters spend a lot on charities related to conservation and other animal causes. Hunting provides a major source of protein for many families trying to make ends meet during these tough times.

http://www.gohuntn.com/gohuntn/968-t...ry-gives-back/

Now about that Deer Relocation effort, I'd be curious as to the logistics?

.How would you go about trapping these deer in the many thousands of square miles they live in?

.How would you go about transporting all these deer you catch in your relocation effort?

.Where would you move these deer to?

When you move these deer what metrics would you use to determine when you will have to move them from their new overloaded home?
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:43 PM
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You think that is a controversial statement? I think practically everyone would agree that animals have just as much a right to live as we do. Animals obviously don't have the same Constitutional rights as humans, but they still have a right to inhabit the earth.
Are you a vegan, Rupert?
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:48 PM
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:49 PM
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I am somewhat skeptical of statistics coming from a site whose content creator doesn't know the difference between "lose" and "loose." Or that there is no "e" in "Grizzly."
What you are skeptical that the links to all those statistics to seemingly valid news and research articles are wrong becuase that person can't spell?
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