Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Sports Bar & Grill
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 02-14-2014, 11:55 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by asudevil View Post
Chance to win you're football loss back to me?? Valentines Day Massacre?? Not!! Sun Devils get it done at home on Friday night!

I totally agree on Syracuse. I feel like they can run the entire table.....no losses.
That was a ugly loss. Just gave the game away.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 02-15-2014, 03:21 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

My brother and I did our $200 future last night. He got first pick based on coin flip, I got next two.
He took Cuse, I took Witch St and Kansas and he took Duke. Obviously its more then likely no one wins, we covered 4 of about 12 teams that can win it. Its not what team goes furthest, you gotta win it all.
We did our NBA one also. We take 4 teams each in that. I knew he was on OKC and the Clippers. So I took first pick and gave him next four. I took Miami. He took OKC,LA, Indiana and Portland. I got Miami,SA, Houston and GS. The NBA bet is like free money for me. How he left Houston and SA for Portland and LA is unexplainable. Plus for a bonus I have GS, who I still believe in and am confident they will go on a run.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 02-15-2014, 03:38 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Troy Daniels should be on an NBA team
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 02-19-2014, 11:39 AM
King Glorious's Avatar
King Glorious King Glorious is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Beaumont, CA
Posts: 4,611
Default

I have been wondering what you guys think of some of the top college players' chances at the NBA level. Guys like Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Smart, Embiid, Fair, Ennis, McDermott, etc.
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 02-19-2014, 03:03 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Glorious View Post
I have been wondering what you guys think of some of the top college players' chances at the NBA level. Guys like Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Smart, Embiid, Fair, Ennis, McDermott, etc.
Because the mid-Atlantic has turned into Siberia this year I have seen a lot more college hoops than usual.

Wiggins is going to be a really good player, Paul George but with a lot more pressure to preform early.

Parker is a star. You hate to make the comparison but closest thing to LeBron (offensively)that we've seen. Doesnt have his lateral quickness and has been a pretty spotty defender in the games I've seen. I saw rumors where he said he would consider coming back for a second year but that would be crazy. I guess a bit shorter Lamar Odom that shoots better and probably does less drugs and wont marry a Kardashian.

Randle looks like solid PF prospect. He has offensive skill but needs polish (better coaching) and might not be in NBA shape either as he has faded a little this season. Different players but I remember that a big concern about Kevin Love coming out of college was he seemed to be out of shape in college.

I havent seen Smart play a single game so I really have no idea.

Embiid could be a monster considering he has only been playing basketball for a few years. Very raw game but the Hakeem comparisons aren't crazy. Obviously he has to develop a offensive game and understand defensive concepts but talk about potential.

I think Fair is an ok prospect but wonder about defense since they only play zone. The fact that his shooting % has dropped this year is probably a negative especially 28% on 3 point shots. Probably the next Wesley Johnson.

Ennis is a natural playmaker. IMO he has a real good chance to be a top 10 PG at some point

McDermott can be a useful NBA player on a team that doesnt depend on him to guard wings on the perimeter. Maybe on a team with a strong post presence he can be a undersized stretch 4. At the very least a rotation player coming off the bench.

While I'd be considered a homer Nick Johnson would be a great 2nd rd pickup for a good team. He is versatile enough to play both guard positions, can shoot enough, can be a lock down defender and is a great athlete. If he was 6'6" he'd be a borderline lottery pick

I really like Rodney Hood.

Aaron Gordon really has a lot of work to do on his offense. His shooting beyond 10 feet has been poor. He is basket case on the FT line right now. He is a great athlete and a lockdown defender but he could use another year.

Selden from Kansas could be a sleeper of sorts if a late 1st round pick can be a sleeper. Same with CJ Wilcox from Washington. I still like Robinson from Michigan.

Last edited by Cannon Shell : 02-19-2014 at 03:15 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 03-01-2014, 11:40 PM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default

Pretty amazing job by Tony Bennett growing the Virginia program he inherited into the 1st winner of the new stacked ACC.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 03-09-2014, 02:09 PM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid View Post
Pretty amazing job by Tony Bennett growing the Virginia program he inherited into the 1st winner of the new stacked ACC.
One of the worst calls to end a game. Ever.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 03-09-2014, 04:02 PM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
Because the mid-Atlantic has turned into Siberia this year I have seen a lot more college hoops than usual.

Wiggins is going to be a really good player, Paul George but with a lot more pressure to preform early.

Parker is a star. You hate to make the comparison but closest thing to LeBron (offensively)that we've seen. Doesnt have his lateral quickness and has been a pretty spotty defender in the games I've seen. I saw rumors where he said he would consider coming back for a second year but that would be crazy. I guess a bit shorter Lamar Odom that shoots better and probably does less drugs and wont marry a Kardashian.

Randle looks like solid PF prospect. He has offensive skill but needs polish (better coaching) and might not be in NBA shape either as he has faded a little this season. Different players but I remember that a big concern about Kevin Love coming out of college was he seemed to be out of shape in college.

I havent seen Smart play a single game so I really have no idea.

Embiid could be a monster considering he has only been playing basketball for a few years. Very raw game but the Hakeem comparisons aren't crazy. Obviously he has to develop a offensive game and understand defensive concepts but talk about potential.

I think Fair is an ok prospect but wonder about defense since they only play zone. The fact that his shooting % has dropped this year is probably a negative especially 28% on 3 point shots. Probably the next Wesley Johnson.

Ennis is a natural playmaker. IMO he has a real good chance to be a top 10 PG at some point

McDermott can be a useful NBA player on a team that doesnt depend on him to guard wings on the perimeter. Maybe on a team with a strong post presence he can be a undersized stretch 4. At the very least a rotation player coming off the bench.

While I'd be considered a homer Nick Johnson would be a great 2nd rd pickup for a good team. He is versatile enough to play both guard positions, can shoot enough, can be a lock down defender and is a great athlete. If he was 6'6" he'd be a borderline lottery pick

I really like Rodney Hood.

Aaron Gordon really has a lot of work to do on his offense. His shooting beyond 10 feet has been poor. He is basket case on the FT line right now. He is a great athlete and a lockdown defender but he could use another year.

Selden from Kansas could be a sleeper of sorts if a late 1st round pick can be a sleeper. Same with CJ Wilcox from Washington. I still like Robinson from Michigan.
The only solid reason he would have for coming back would be because they would be a lock to win title next year with him and Okafor playing together, along with that stud PG from Minny
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 03-09-2014, 05:57 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav View Post
The only solid reason he would have for coming back would be because they would be a lock to win title next year with him and Okafor playing together, along with that stud PG from Minny
You can't stay when you are a top 3 pick. Makes no sense and will cost too much money to insure. The NCAA provides a insurance policy but I believe it only covers potential wages. He is probably gonna sign a $$$ deal with Nike that is far more than his initial contract would be worth. He wont get what LeBron got coming out of HS (90 million) but it wont be insignificant.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 03-16-2014, 08:38 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
Here is the 5 star lock Final Four prediction.

Syracuse
Michigan St
Kansas
Wichita St

Cuse Vs Wichita St for the Championship
W/ the Shockers winning it all.
Take it to the bank.
Pretty close.
Now that I see a bracket, my FINAL 4 is....
Kansas
Creighton
Wichita St
Michigan St
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 03-17-2014, 11:32 AM
Ocala Mike
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Not much love for the Gators in here; they're strictly the one to beat. Foul line shooting their only (glaring) weakness.
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 03-17-2014, 12:47 PM
casp0555's Avatar
casp0555 casp0555 is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Humble,Texas
Posts: 18,884
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
Pretty close.
Now that I see a bracket, my FINAL 4 is....
Kansas
Creighton
Wichita St
Michigan St
I like the Shockers...heard on the radio driving in that the line on them to win it all was 15/1, I will have to check when I get home but that may not be too bad a play
__________________
"Wise men talk because they have something to say, fools talk because they have to say something" - Plato
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 03-17-2014, 02:02 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by casp0555 View Post
I like the Shockers...heard on the radio driving in that the line on them to win it all was 15/1, I will have to check when I get home but that may not be too bad a play
10-1 now
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 03-17-2014, 02:06 PM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,558
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by casp0555 View Post
I like the Shockers...heard on the radio driving in that the line on them to win it all was 15/1, I will have to check when I get home but that may not be too bad a play
They are not getting any love. Team made deep run last year and are back
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 03-17-2014, 02:18 PM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default

Louisville as a 4 is a joke.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 03-17-2014, 02:37 PM
Duvalier's Avatar
Duvalier Duvalier is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,330
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid View Post
Louisville as a 4 is a joke.
Agreed...ridiculous. Ranked #3 and #5 in the polls along with being defending champs, yet somehow are a number 4 seed.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 03-17-2014, 02:54 PM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvalier View Post
Agreed...ridiculous. Ranked #3 and #5 in the polls along with being defending champs, yet somehow are a number 4 seed.
The conspiracy theorist in me says it was in part to make sure Wichita State doesn't make it out of that region.
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 03-17-2014, 03:29 PM
jms62's Avatar
jms62 jms62 is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 19,762
Default

What teams have the best chance of an upset in the first round from the
3-14,5-12,4-13 and 6-11 games
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 03-17-2014, 03:41 PM
declansharbor's Avatar
declansharbor declansharbor is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Exit 30
Posts: 6,357
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jms62 View Post
What teams have the best chance of an upset in the first round from the
3-14,5-12,4-13 and 6-11 games
I have NC St beating up on St Louis in the "2nd round".

Louisville being a 4 is a joke.
__________________
"A person who saw no important difference between the fire outside a Neandrathal's cave and a working thermo-nuclear reactor might tell you that junk bonds and derivatives BOTH serve to energize capital"

- Nathan Israel
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 03-17-2014, 04:21 PM
declansharbor's Avatar
declansharbor declansharbor is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Exit 30
Posts: 6,357
Default

Anybody else scratch their head last night with all the 'experts ' choosing Mich St??

I know they're getting Payne back at exactly the right time, but it was weird seeing them all in agreement when it came to Mich St's chances.
__________________
"A person who saw no important difference between the fire outside a Neandrathal's cave and a working thermo-nuclear reactor might tell you that junk bonds and derivatives BOTH serve to energize capital"

- Nathan Israel
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.