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10-11-2006, 12:14 AM
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10-11-2006, 12:18 AM
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10-11-2006, 12:24 AM
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He's not going to bite me if the connections keep putting him in races that our over his head. The logical thing to do is keep him at Santa Anita where he seems to run quite well.
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10-11-2006, 12:25 AM
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The reality is (and it's a pretty sad reality) that Brother Derek is probably one of the top 10 Classic contenders at this point. But he's very far behind the top 2-3 contenders. After u get past Bernardini, Lava Man, and Invasor (if he runs), can u honestly say that Brother Derek is outclassed by any of the rest of the Classic contenders? He ran as well against Lava Man as Perfect Drift did. Strong Contender, Ball Four, It's No Joke? None of them outclass him. Bright One? Sun King? I don't see them as outclassing him either. I'm not saying he's better than them but I think he fits. If he's able to get fourth, or third if Invasor is not there, it's worth it to go. Usually, I say that if u aren't entering to win a race or using a race as a prep for a bigger one that u shouldn't go. But the purses of the BC make it different. I don't think Brother Derek has a shot in hell to win the race. But outside of Bernardini and Lava Man, I don't think anyone else does either.
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10-11-2006, 12:27 AM
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No, he doesn't have to be big to be good. I am judging his ability on his performances and my ability to pick out horses that are going to stay at the same level and those that are going to improve. I have watched tons of horses mature and develop over the years. You are talking down to the wrong person if you think that I don't know a little bit about muscular development. It doesn't mean that BD can't win a G1 out west here and there. It just means that he can't go with horses such as Bernardini, Sun King, Lava Man, and Invasor. And for the record, Seabiscuit wasn't the prettiest horse, but I liked the way that he was built. He was all racehorse. Also, I never said that Smarty was a dud. Smarty was awesome. I just said that he wasn't as good as Bernardini, and IMO, he isn't. And I think that you were referring to someone else when you were talking about bloodlines. I'm a performance person, not a bloodline person, although I do like a good performance horse with a nice pedigree. Last edited by kentuckyrosesinmay : 10-11-2006 at 12:36 AM.
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10-11-2006, 10:44 AM
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
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10-11-2006, 02:35 PM
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It doesn't surprise me that he started working great,and running great at where???????? Santa Anita. He is a known commodity at this track. Why keep forcing him to run at tracks he obviously doesn't like nearly as much.
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10-11-2006, 03:22 PM
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I think it's far too early to call Brother Derek a lesser animal. He had a horrendous experience in the Triple Crown, he is a very efficient mover and has nice tactical speed. If he could learn to relax and rate a little better he could be a very nice horse. I loved the way he looked on track Saturday, he has matured nicely and muscled out well. I could see him developing a running style like one of my all time favorites, Medaglia d' Oro.
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10-11-2006, 03:57 PM
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Latest report has him and Giacomo in the Classic.
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10-11-2006, 06:07 PM
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Brother Derek over hyped hmmmm. I don't know. Going into the Derby who was a deserving morning line favorite. He won everything he had too. After the Derby it seems there has been allot of excuses made for him, some have merit, some don't.
IMO I think Hendricks took a huge gamble with Bro Derek going into his fall campaign and up to this point has failed. I think it was a huge mistake keeping him from the major summer stakes races for 3 yr olds. Either he was secretly hurt or sore or just bad strategy. Sort of reminds me of Phletcher and Flower Ally But either way his stock has fallen drastically. A shocking upset in the BC is a must otherwise we'll see how he is as a four yr old.
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10-11-2006, 08:23 PM
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Bro. Derek needs to stay in Cal if they want him to win anymore.
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10-11-2006, 08:27 PM
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10-11-2006, 08:52 PM
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10-11-2006, 08:58 PM
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10-11-2006, 09:01 PM
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BTW, when was his first race back since his layoff?
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10-11-2006, 09:02 PM
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Brother Derek could have run in the Pegasus at the Meadowlands in NJ(on his way to Churchill). I think he would have defeated one of the weakest fields in the history of that race.
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10-11-2006, 09:02 PM
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