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06-11-2006, 09:18 AM
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Kev,
look, you aren't able to put aside emotion yet and talk without emotion isn analyzing races. I mean, cacique's trip in the Woodford was quite bad, and yet you went on record as saying you didnt see anything and the trip was ok. Now, you want to argue about a little rankness and "energy loss"? Step back and think about this. Two great horses and I am looking forward to a rematch. 
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#42
06-11-2006, 09:23 AM
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Great Race - Great Camera Angles
Was really impressed and happy with the result. Thanks Oracle 80. Did bet early and often...
Liked the camera shots in the backstretch and coming around the turn. Thought Prado did a great job conserving enough energy to win be a nose.... Difference might have been the jockey.... Lava Man continues to impress out here on the turf in the last two starts. Monster efforts but not sure how that translates against the best in yesterday's races.... PSH
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#43
06-11-2006, 09:35 AM
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Ok now that the ball busting is over with I will give you my real take on the race. Neither cacique or English Channel is at their best on the lead. I didn't feel that the grass favored speed yesterday. I was shocked and stunned when Pommes Frites actually got caught loping so loose and slow earlier in the day(different course, but still). Neither Johnny nor Edgar wanted the lead, and with good reason. I think that EC was set for a bounce off that lifetime top last time and that alone made the difference down the stretch. Gesture as i said many times does not really want to run by anybody in a dogfight. Race really settled nothing in terms of which one of those 4 is "best" overall as a horse. A race run under freakish soft and slow fractions as a conditioon will usually not prove anything. This one can be filed under that label. I think cacique was the most fit horse yesterday(EC was fit but set for a bounce off his lifetime top) as Gesture hadn't run in a long time, Swallow had only had one race against inferior horses that didn't tighten him enough, and EC was set to regress. Plain and simple, it was just Caciques day. But I spoke of those premises on all three of the others BEFORE the race, not after. Race proved nothing yesterday in terms of which one of these four is actually the best. Ok? Thats an unbiased view of what i really feel without the ball busting.
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#44
06-11-2006, 10:06 AM
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You, of all people, have talked about how a horse expends energy when rank like that and wanting to run, but yet the jock is trying to rate him.
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06-11-2006, 10:08 AM
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06-11-2006, 10:42 AM
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#47
06-11-2006, 11:54 AM
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relaxed gesture
Why are you all talking about English channel, he had a perfect trip no excuses at all. Still a nice horse and capable of some amazing preformances. Cacique did have a horrible ride from Pval in the churchill race and has found a rider in prado to help him. But the horse you should all be focusing on is clement's lawnmower Relazed Gesture. NOBODY ELSE SAW THAT KENT THE GREAT LOST HIS STICK A FEW STRIDES AFTER THE 1/8TH POLE???? This horse has been plagued with idiot rides before and can get it done. If you look at his campaign last year, lost the Bowling green from a pitiful brice blanc ride. Than the sword dancer santos was dumb enough to let chavez steal it. He won the canadian international for fun against some tough horses. Dubai was a horrid showing but he has prooved he is going to rebound and have a good campaign if guys can ride him to their actual abilities. IMO he needs a more agressive jockey and he can be in the top 3 of turf horses this year.
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