Obamacare Bleeding Out

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

It was you and GR who don't understand. "Not to worry. I understand the risks completely" was my polite way of saying butt out. I didn't ask for your advice concerning my private life. Good luck with all your medical issues.

You're the one who volunteered it on a horse racing blog.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

we quit 19 years ago. what a waste of money, it literally goes up in smoke.

I'm glad. I wish my dad and maternal aunt (and hell, for that matter, my grandparents, who both died at 65 from heart attacks) could have stopped, too. My aunt actually survived a heart attack at 62 and still couldn't kick the habit. She didn't survive the second one a couple of years later.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I'm glad. I wish my dad and maternal aunt (and hell, for that matter, my grandparents, who both died at 65 from heart attacks) could have stopped, too. My aunt actually survived a heart attack at 62 and still couldn't kick the habit. She didn't survive the second one a couple of years later.

A few years ago, i was in a hospital parking lot....shaking my head at a patient. Wheeled himself out to curb, iv in tow, hacking and coughing in his wheelchair while having a smoke. Smh

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Not having insurance is my choice. I would think that would be fine for all the pro choice people.

In liberal parlance . . . "pro choice" . . . I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

In liberal parlance . . . "pro choice" . . . I do not think it means what you think it means.

Since you apparently missed this when i posted it earlier...

Hey, its a free country, you can do what you want. Hope it works out for you

[Pants II]

It's not free to not take health insurance, biggun.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by OldDog

In liberal parlance . . . "pro choice" . . . I do not think it means what you think it means.

Believe me. I know what it means.

Since I have now been informed that this is a horse racing blog (I thought it was the political section ), who do you like for the Oaks? I'm hoping Dothraki Queen gets in. I really like her. I don't have any particular choice in the race. It would be kind of nice if Rachel's daughter won since Rachel won't be having anymore foals and it looks like her colt may be having soundness issues.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Believe me. I know what it means.

Since I have now been informed that this is a horse racing blog (I thought it was the political section ), who do you like for the Oaks? I'm hoping Dothraki Queen gets in. I really like her. I don't have any particular choice in the race. It would be kind of nice if Rachel's daughter won since Rachel won't be having anymore foals and it looks like her colt may be having soundness issues.

I knew you did.

I like Rachel's Valentina, Land Over Sea and Lewis Bay, but really feel like this race is wide open and look for one or more of the current longer shots like Go Maggie Go to hit the board. But wait, I like Cathryn Sophia and Weep No More, too...

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I knew you did.

I like Rachel's Valentina, Land Over Sea and Lewis Bay, but really feel like this race is wide open and look for one or more of the current longer shots like Go Maggie Go to hit the board. But wait, I like Cathryn Sophia and Weep No More, too...

Think I'm going to skip this one and just enjoy the race. I like Exaggerator (have a future bet on him), Creator, and Lani in the Derby.

[OldDog]

“The joke speech is the most fun part of this, but the things I’m the most proud of were the most serious speeches, I think,” Lovett said. “Health care. Economic speeches.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkqn6wsrUfs

Ah ha ha ha ha ha!

Because lying in order to get policies in place is so funny!

[OldDog]

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Column...rs-Get-Screwed

Screwed we are.

A friend who has written group health plans for 15 years is getting out, heading for the property & casualty market. He says it's unsustainable, and that it was designed as such.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Column...rs-Get-Screwed

Screwed we are.

A friend who has written group health plans for 15 years is getting out, heading for the property & casualty market. He says it's unsustainable, and that it was designed as such.

of course it's unsustainable. I've said that since day one. the way it was set up, the exchanges will go into a death spiral.

[Rupert Pupkin]

New York Health Insurers Propose Big Rate Hikes for 2017

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...rea?news-image

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

New York Health Insurers Propose Big Rate Hikes for 2017

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...rea?news-image

I do appreciate chutzpah... Not only do they basically write the law they then point to it as they raise their already astronomical prices. Did any one in the exec suite take a cut in compensation? http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Parasites.aspx

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

New York Health Insurers Propose Big Rate Hikes for 2017

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...rea?news-image

http://www.ibtimes.com/rising-costs-...panies-1938699

yeah, cry me a river.
and just the other day, I was reading about the ratio between ceo's pay and their workers. yeah, the workers pay is the problem, like trump says...

http://fortune.com/2015/06/22/ceo-vs-worker-pay/

[OldDog]

Yeah, Oprah makes waaaay too much money. What gives her the right?

[Pants II]

Yeah totally fine with Bezos and Zuckerberg making **** tons of money but heaven forbid health care ceo's make less actually. They're a bigger threat than the previous two who control a large portion of the media.

It's the responsibility of our elected officials to read the bill. Most of the problems of the ACA is due to those morons not reading what they agreed to.

That is what plebs do at rent-a-centers.

Unacceptable and I'll be damned if the dishonest commies and other assorted circus freaks lie about it and try to lay blame on private capitalists.

This country is permanently divided. A continuous downward spiral that only proves that the Union should've let the South secede. This multicultural utopia isn't working and the stats don't lie. No matter how hard the liberals try to hide them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Yeah, Oprah makes waaaay too much money. What gives her the right?

I didn't know she was a health care ceo.

and why is it ok for rich folks to make tons, but let the rest of us ask for a raise, and we get told to suck it? what's the rationale for that?

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...e-ceo-pay-gap/

Americans estimated that the ratio of CEO pay to unskilled worker pay is about 30-to-1, new research by scholars at the Harvard Business School and Thailand’s Chulalongkorn University reveals. In reality, the average S&P 500 company CEO earned 354 times what the average U.S. worker did in 2012, the researchers say. Americans said that ideally that gap would be 6.7-to-1.

the ratio between me and my employees is three to one. not 350 to one.


and then there's this:

This pay disparity between CEOs and working people in the U.S. has exploded in the past three decades. After hovering between 20-to-1 and 30-to-1 from the 1960s through the late 1980s, the ratio doubled to roughly 60-to-1 under President George H. W. Bush, leapt to more than 100-to-1 at the outset of President Clinton’s term, and spiked to nearly 400-to-1 at the height of the dot-com bubble at the turn of the millenium. Subsequent recessions have only made minor, temporary dents in the figure.

[OldDog]

Oprah is a high paid CEO. They're the enemy, right? Like in the Fortune article?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Oprah is a high paid CEO. They're the enemy, right? Like in the Fortune article?

who said they're the enemy?
my point is that the line of 'we can't afford to give workers a raise' is bullshit. these companies make more money than ever, but in the last 40 years or so, it's been titled drastically to giving most of the pay to the top, and nothing to the rest...and then people wonder why the economy hasn't grown as it ought.

are you comfortable with the change in the ratio? if so, why?