Simple question

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

You both post studies that prove nothing because I can find a study to support any position anyone can ever imagine on the Internet. This includes The Holocaust not happening, 911 being an inside job, Moon Landing was a hoax, etc. etc. etc. So in summary her "study" is no more no less useless as yours.

that's true.

[jms62]

Follow the money

http://www.businessinsider.com/priso...-states-2016-7

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by jms62

Follow the money

http://www.businessinsider.com/priso...-states-2016-7

and IF you could follow it further, you will find some pol or pols that are benefiting from the direction of that spending, money doesn't move unless one or several of these c#$%suckers benefit from it.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by casp0555

and IF you could follow it further, you will find some pol or pols that are benefiting from the direction of that spending, money doesn't move unless one or several of these c#$%suckers benefit from it.

And judges, Prosecutors, Police chiefs and the poster boy Rudy Giulani who by the way seems to have lost his fastball. I wonder how many times this thought goes through someones head. "You mean if we lock someone up we get more money and our stock price goes up?"

[Danzig]

This is from a few months ago:


County officials across Mississippi are warning of job losses and deep deficits as local jails are being deprived of the state inmates needed to keep them afloat. The culprit, say local officials, is state government and private prisons, which are looking to boost their own revenue as sentencing and drug-policy reforms are sending fewer bodies into the correctional system.

“If they do not send us our inmates back, we can’t make it,” said one county supervisor.

The state guaranteed that the local jails would never be less than 80 percent occupied, and the locals would get a 3 percent boost in compensation each year.

I find the last paragraph quite telling. Only one way to stick to that guarantee.

[Danzig]

As the wave of mass incarceration begins to recede, the Mississippi controversy has local and state officials talking openly about how harmful locking up fewer people up will be for the economy, confirming the suspicions of those who have argued that mass incarceration is not merely a strategy directed at crime prevention. “Under the administrations of Reagan and Clinton, incarceration, a social tool used for punishment, also became a major job creator,”

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

As the wave of mass incarceration begins to recede, the Mississippi controversy has local and state officials talking openly about how harmful locking up fewer people up will be for the economy, confirming the suspicions of those who have argued that mass incarceration is not merely a strategy directed at crime prevention. “Under the administrations of Reagan and Clinton, incarceration, a social tool used for punishment, also became a major job creator,”

Frightening.

[jms62]

http://billmoyers.com/segment/bill-m...for-democracy/

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://billmoyers.com/segment/bill-m...for-democracy/

It is astounding to me that anyone that believes this (and mark me down as an absolute YES as well) would not be thrilled to support a candidate whose sole purpose of leaving a successful and lavish lifestyle is to come to Washington to fix it.

He has single-handedly changed the Republican party platform. Never gave an inch when it comes to positions on trade deals (which both sides are in bed together on), illegal immigration, replacing ACA with something that actually works, etc - EVERY POSITION that the right kicks and screams about, had their chances to vote down, and yet happily went along with because it maintains the status quo and by extension protect the money that owns them. Leading by example, never bending on principles, and displaying the kind of leadership so desperately needed in Washington, HE is bringing THEM to his positions - not the other way around.

What insurance lobby, Big Pharma/AG/Oil lobby, and Banking institutions funded his primary bid? None. He owes no one - which is precisely how you fix Washington - from the outside with zero influence peddling.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://billmoyers.com/segment/bill-m...for-democracy/

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://billmoyers.com/segment/bill-m...for-democracy/

worth listening to more than once...

[Danzig]

We have got to get together and show the money men they need us too. We need to get all this damn money out of politics. Because a lot of us dont have money, and thus cannot buy a say.
How?
What if everyone stayed home from work a few days...a big national strike. Shut the emmer effer down? Would that do anything?
How do we get changes made? Any ideas?

[Danzig]

Here is a timeline i found in a google search, when i asked money in politics.

https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/...ey-in-politics

Candidates eschew public funding these days because it limits them so much financially.
And like they showed when pols have to fundraise. Easier to get a bunch of money fast if you just call the top couple donors. Takes a lot more work to call all the little folks. But then those rich ones, well they want aomething in return.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://billmoyers.com/segment/bill-m...for-democracy/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GFVKMTJUos

[bigrun]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2718165

[Danzig]

http://billmoyers.com/2014/11/21/8-w...oney-politics/

Ways to help get money out of politics.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://billmoyers.com/2014/11/21/8-w...oney-politics/

Ways to help get money out of politics.

Unfortunately those that would implement this are the ones benefitting from it staying the same. Same as hiring the fox to guard the hen house and then asking them to implement changes since your hens are disappearing.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

It is astounding to me that anyone that believes this (and mark me down as an absolute YES as well) would not be thrilled to support a candidate whose sole purpose of leaving a successful and lavish lifestyle is to come to Washington to fix it.

He has single-handedly changed the Republican party platform. Never gave an inch when it comes to positions on trade deals (which both sides are in bed together on), illegal immigration, replacing ACA with something that actually works, etc - EVERY POSITION that the right kicks and screams about, had their chances to vote down, and yet happily went along with because it maintains the status quo and by extension protect the money that owns them. Leading by example, never bending on principles, and displaying the kind of leadership so desperately needed in Washington, HE is bringing THEM to his positions - not the other way around.

What insurance lobby, Big Pharma/AG/Oil lobby, and Banking institutions funded his primary bid? None. He owes no one - which is precisely how you fix Washington - from the outside with zero influence peddling.

Originally Posted by jms62

Unfortunately those that would implement this are the ones benefitting from it staying the same. Same as hiring the fox to guard the hen house and then asking them to implement changes since your hens are disappearing.

Donald Trump Puts Reinstatement of Glass-Steagall Act Into 2016 Republican Party Platform

Well, you can put this huge and under-reported Trump platform position in the AFFIRMED PREDICTION column.

Anyone thinking Donald Trump is not intensely serious about America-First economics just got a massive dose of reality. Specifically demanded by Donald Trump himself:

“We support reinstating the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 which prohibits commercial banks from engaging in high-risk investment,” said the platform released by the Republican National Committee

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...agall-s-return

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Donald Trump Puts Reinstatement of Glass-Steagall Act Into 2016 Republican Party Platform

Well, you can put this huge and under-reported Trump platform position in the AFFIRMED PREDICTION column.

Anyone thinking Donald Trump is not intensely serious about America-First economics just got a massive dose of reality. Specifically demanded by Donald Trump himself:

“We support reinstating the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 which prohibits commercial banks from engaging in high-risk investment,” said the platform released by the Republican National Committee

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...agall-s-return

Trumps son may have just won him the election. can I vote for him?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by jms62

Trumps son may have just won him the election. can I vote for him?

I'm looking forward to Ivanka's speech this evening as well - All of his kids are exceedingly intelligent, well spoken and confident. Not an accident.

Letting Ted Cruz show his ass when he knew no endorsement was coming was another stroke of genius. Dude just basically committed career self-immolation by displaying what a petulant, self-absorbed, self-serving blowhard he really is.

But for a moment back to reinstating Glass-Stegall - That is the type of stuff that makes the bought and paid for Inside Washington crowd sh1t themselves over.

Doing the right thing without being influenced by the Banking Cartels.

Actually something you'd expect Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders to demand from Hillary Clinton whist she laughs in their faces.

The party is not ever going to be unified. There is a tiny fringe element that will never be satisfied. The majority of sensible Republicans recognize the fact that this party needs radical change to stay relevant. And that is fine. Independents and working class Dems are crossing over in droves.

It's called growth, and while the Dems mire themselves in backwards-thinking socialism, there is a movement afoot.