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Old 12-16-2006, 07:34 PM
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I think Principal Secret is extremely playable here. His numbers are good and his race two back was more the jock being a moron then the horse.

2-3-6-8 box and win money on 8
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Old 12-16-2006, 07:42 PM
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Kinda liking Liquidity a little in this race. His two races after his impressive MSW seem a little forced and now with 40 days off and 3 really good works, and the blinkers, seems like a good wager
Again, not trusting my handicapping, would have had a nice place price on this horse
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Old 12-16-2006, 07:47 PM
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You are the best. Like anyone in hoops tonight?

was compromised by the pace, Belmont and Churchill here we come.

I still love ya Bellgravia
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:01 PM
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was compromised by the pace, Belmont and Churchill here we come.

I still love ya Bellgravia
That horse has NO SHOT at 10 furlongs, let alone 12 furlongs....
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:03 PM
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Good race by the winner.
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:04 PM
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That horse has NO SHOT at 10 furlongs, let alone 12 furlongs....
Sure he does... he'll be walking in a zigzag very much like my grandmother, but he can get the distance.
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:12 PM
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I thought Bill Cerin was going to try to make out with Christina Oliveres. LOL
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:24 PM
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Belgravia's 2007 goal should be the King's Bishop....
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Old 12-16-2006, 10:38 PM
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I cannot believe that Kent Desormeaux had the best horse in the race and actually won it. How many times have you seen him have the best horse and screw the horse into a 7th or 8th place finish....

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Old 12-16-2006, 10:40 PM
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Ill take it....
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Old 12-16-2006, 10:45 PM
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Oh, I'll take it to, and I think that Stormello is a force to be reckoned with, so long as Kent Desormeaux doesn't screw him in the spring...

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Old 12-17-2006, 12:34 AM
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This was a very circumstantial race in a year when we've had many circumstantial Grade 1 races.

Basically, with the exception of Principle Secret dropping anchor yet again, watching the race was like watching a Merry-go-round.

Horses racing 1st, 2nd, and 4th through both the opening 1/4 mile and opening half mile, ended up finishing 1st, 2nd, and 3rd respectively. The 2nd place fiinsher 15/1 and 3rd place 36/1.They produced a $91 exacta and $1,752 trifecta.

Stormello had, what is widely considered the best trip in all of horse racing. Being loose on the lead, through very moderate to slow early fractions.

An ALW race won 30 minutes earlier by 12/1 pace presser AP Xcellent, at the same distance, featured fractions of 23.07, 45.76, and 1:10.02---all three of which markedly faster than the early fractions in the Hollywood Futurity.

The track really wasn't "speed biased" today---though, it was obviously yielding fast times. A track record was set in an ALW race, at 6.5 furlongs, by a horse who dueled for the lead. In a 25K claiming race later on, a horse just missed the same track record while winning in wire-to-wire fashion.

This was certainly a very sub-par running of the Futurity.
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:36 AM
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This was certainly a very sub-par running of the Futurity.

I'm not sure if " sub-par " is the right term.

I would go for irrelevent.....for all the reasons you just gave.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:28 AM
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Well,I think the top 3 get some credit for running well today.That was in no way a track you would want to use for testing the ability of these horses.Belgravia will easly win his next start.Track was a poor test today.The good thing is that they now all have 2 turn races that they can move forward,and progress from.Belgravia is gunna have a big say in what happens in the next 5 and a half months of derby preps,and the Script horse will dominate in 3 year old turf stakes.
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:29 AM
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He could makeout with worse Sightseek

What a game run by the winner and the runner up.

Nice pick by a few of you guys. Im too lazy to go back and see who it was.
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:37 AM
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That was the very first time on a synthetic surface that I've seen a horse get passed in the stretch, only to come back and win.

We see this fairly frequently on conventional dirt, rarely on grass, and basically never on Poly or Cushion.
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Old 12-18-2006, 12:13 PM
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He could makeout with worse Sightseek

What a game run by the winner and the runner up.

Nice pick by a few of you guys. Im too lazy to go back and see who it was.
LOL, I wonder if she is praying Memorette doesn't win today?
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:21 AM
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That horse has NO SHOT at 10 furlongs, let alone 12 furlongs....
I think he will be able to get 1 1/8 miles. I don't know if he will be able to get 1 1/4 miles. That may be too far for him.

He can run much better than he ran in the Futurity. He was sick and probably should not have run.
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