Steve Haskin;s Top Derby Contendars

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Are we racing robotic horses now? Geez that sucks that someone isn't willing to ruin a horse for the whole year for the Derby.

What do plans and direction have with racing robotic horses. The horse isnt injured to my knowledge. But Zito has no plans for the horse. If he does, please share with us if you know.

[lemoncrush]

Love Steve Haskin's columns about derby contenders.
But I see he made a glaring ommision.
Where's the Green Monkey!!!?

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Love Steve Haskin's columns about derby contenders.
But I see he made a glaring ommision.
Where's the Green Monkey!!!?

Good question. IF TGM comes out of retirement and wins then he is at the top of everyone'e list.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I didnt put words in your mouth at all. But I can only assume you know as much as I do since that is what you are showing me.

Once again, troll, who do you think you are fooling with this act? You did not just say I didn't know ( which I don't and never even implied I did ) but you insinuated much more with the following.....

Originally Posted by eurobounce

So you dont know. Basically, you know just as much as I do. Zito has no path for this horse, no plans, no direction at all. Why, I don't know. But it seems this horse is wasting away in Zito's barn.

You said I don't know....true, you said you don't know.....true, but then you said Nick Zito didn't know........unsubstantiatable and highly unlikely.

You are a troll who posts to cause trouble. You fool nobody and only amuse a few. If you are going to troll at least do a better job.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Once again, troll, who do you think you are fooling with this act? You did not just say I didn't know ( which I don't and never even implied I did ) but you insinuated much more with the following.....





You said I don't know....true, you said you don't know.....true, but then you said Nick Zito didn't know........unsubstantiatable and highly unlikely.

You are a troll who posts to cause trouble. You fool nobody and only amuse a few. If you are going to troll at least do a better job.

sorrry...SO YOU DONT KNOW should have been a question. I never said Zito doesnt know. I said he doesnt have any direction for this horse. I havent heard of plans so therefore I can only conclude he doesnt have any.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

So you dont know. Basically, you know just as much as I do. Zito has no path for this horse, no plans, no direction at all. Why, I don't know. But it seems this horse is wasting away in Zito's barn.

he got 5 in there one year......i think that says it all...

[smartyalex]

Originally Posted by tycharles01

Street Sense might be looking nice for the Derby. He is gonna run the Bluegrass and if he runs as good as he did at the BC on the Churchill track. I will be one of the few who thinks he might have a good chance to win. In other words --- A horse for the course!!!

Also why is Tiz Wonderful running the Arkansas track of the warmup?? Just want some easy wins like Lawyer Ron?? He is a good looking horse who needs the competition to run against

Yea, it's the easy competition in the Arkansas Derby! You're ridiculous!!!

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

he got 5 in there one year......i think that says it all...

I guess one year is good to have 5. But I dont believe any of those 5 won.

[Linny]

Eurobounce, you must think pretty highly of yourself. Just because YOU don't know what Nick's plans are then clearly he has no plans. Does Nick consult with you on schedules/plans/possible starts and training for all his stock or just this colt?

I don't even know what horse you are talking about but if he's a MSW winner of ($16k) my guess is that he's looking for an allowance (as he did with Bellamy Rd, Sun King, Noble Causeway etc) before trying stakes. As such he may not have mapped out which stakes the horse belongs in.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

sorrry...SO YOU DONT KNOW should have been a question. I never said Zito doesnt know. I said he doesnt have any direction for this horse. I havent heard of plans so therefore I can only conclude he doesnt have any.

You are lying and here's the proof.........

Originally Posted by eurobounce

So you dont know. Basically, you know just as much as I do. Zito has no path for this horse, no plans, no direction at all. Why, I don't know. But it seems this horse is wasting away in Zito's barn.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

What do plans and direction have with racing robotic horses. The horse isnt injured to my knowledge. But Zito has no plans for the horse. If he does, please share with us if you know.

Because you haven't read anything in the Blood-Horse, TT's or elsewhere you just assume that Zito has none for this horse?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

sorrry...SO YOU DONT KNOW should have been a question. I never said Zito doesnt know. I said he doesnt have any direction for this horse. I havent heard of plans so therefore I can only conclude he doesnt have any.

So if Zito doesn't personally make you aware of the plans for one of his horses then that means he doesn't have any? That's some interesting logic.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

just getting them there is the question you were saying no...if thats the case he has pleanty of exp mapping out the graded moneys...no wait he should ask you..i forgot...my bad..

You know Zito is having a good year. 31st in trainer standings. 19-4-3-5. His horses are finishing in the money. But he is running in some cheap races to avg $6,057 per start.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You are lying and here's the proof.........

What exactly am I lying about? I said SO YOU DONT KNOW should be a question and not a statement. So I am lost as to what I am lying about.

Originally Posted by Linny

Eurobounce, you must think pretty highly of yourself. Just because YOU don't know what Nick's plans are then clearly he has no plans. Does Nick consult with you on schedules/plans/possible starts and training for all his stock or just this colt?

I don't even know what horse you are talking about but if he's a MSW winner of ($16k) my guess is that he's looking for an allowance (as he did with Bellamy Rd, Sun King, Noble Causeway etc) before trying stakes. As such he may not have mapped out which stakes the horse belongs in.

Well most trainers have come out and announced some sort of plan with their derby contendars. So far, no word for Zito on King Alliance.

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Because you haven't read anything in the Blood-Horse, TT's or elsewhere you just assume that Zito has none for this horse?

What else is there to assume? Should I assume there is a path just because it is Zito?

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

just getting them there is the question you were saying no...if thats the case he has pleanty of exp mapping out the graded moneys...no wait he should ask you..i forgot...my bad..

He does have experience and at one time he was one of the best. But you can't always live in the 1990's.

[slotdirt]

Since it's surely been since the '90's since Nick Zito had any success.

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Since it's surely been since the '90's since Nick Zito had any success.

His success has been been fading the past couple of years and it will continue to decline. That was my prediction a couple of months ago and so far $6,000 per start is backing me up.