Corinthian - YES

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Blackthroat,
Thanks for the update.
I've long been a fan of Corinthian, and Jim J as well.
If anyone can bring him back better, Jim J can and will.
Heck, this was his derby horse, right?
I'm still a believer. Jim J will have a good year.
And again, thanks for the info.
DTS

Wait--I gave the update on Corinthian, BTW just decided to give his opinion of the horse. I like J Jerkens. I like Corinthian and I think we will see him do some good things in the year 2007.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Wait--I gave the update on Corinthian, BTW just decided to give his opinion of the horse. I like J Jerkens. I like Corinthian and I think we will see him do some good things in the year 2007.

Well then...THANK YOU EURO TOO!!

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Well then...THANK YOU EURO TOO!!

Oh I was kidding. Any good home farm news to report DTS?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Oh I was kidding. Any good home farm news to report DTS?

Please report to the Lessons Learned from Chickens thread.

J/K... couldn't resist.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Please report to the Lessons Learned from Chickens thread.

J/K... couldn't resist.

Cajun, you are going to have to clue me in a little on what the Lessons Learned from the Chickens thread is? I don't know what you are saying.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Cajun, you are going to have to clue me in a little on what the Lessons Learned from the Chickens thread is?

You'd have to ask DTS....I'm not very sure that anyone else really knows what any of it means

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

You'd have to ask DTS....I'm not very sure that anyone else really knows what any of it means

I know I am slow at times--like you said--you hope I never get lost in the woods. But I am glad I am not alone on this one.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I know I am slow at times--like you said--you hope I never get lost in the woods. But I am glad I am not alone on this one.

Did i really say that?

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Did i really say that?

I think so. I posted a thread and I stated I couldnt find a thread already on the subject. It turns out that the thread was a couple of threads down on the page. I think it was you. It was funny, so go ahead and take the credit. If it wasn't you, then I am sorry.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Oh I was kidding. Any good home farm news to report DTS?

Euro,
Winter on the farm is pretty quiet lately. Good news is that Ciel Bonne and Daring Day are named and registered. Shot o' Bourbon and Darlin' by Day will be moving out soon.
As far as "lessons learned from chickens" goes...well, it's in the "politics" room.
Though some might not agree with what I have to say, it gives me a place to share some thoughts..or insanity. It's all about how you look at some things.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Sorry, I'm not a built-in-excuse guy. You either think he will do well or you don't.

I don't. You seem to feel regardless of what he does you are correct...you are not.

By the way.....any other Jimmy Jerkens horses you have unrealistic expectations about that I need to be aware of?

Well it's tough when gelding the horse isn't a decision I can make. If that happened I think he'd be a very good horse. As it is I think the chance of him not amounting to much is a lot more likely than becoming a very good horse. Doesn't mean I'm not going to hope that he does magically get his act together and become a top horse or discount the possibility that it could happen. I don't really see why they'd bring him back this year if they didn't think it could happen.

It's funny that I like two different Jimmy Jerkens horses. I couldn't pick the guy out of a lineup and don't know anything about him yet Corinthian and Sir Greeley are two of my favorite horses out there.

Oh, and I'm thinking the chances of Sir Greeley winning a G1 this year aren't looking too bad right now. I think the Carter and Met Mile are both ripe for the picking. Latent Heat is the frontrunner for the Carter at least and he's never struck me as that great of a horse. Latent Heat and Sun King will probably be the frontrunners for the Met Mile unless Discreet Cat shows up and neither of them are unbeatable either. Unfortunately with his recent record he's more likely to run 2nd in both than win either.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I totally agree. Sure, he has some ability, but nowhere near what people were saying ( and apparently still are ) after his win in the very bad Fountain of Youth last year. While he is a bit of a bad actor, there have been many of those in the past, and it isn't a viable excuse for his real problem....a reasonable case of the slows.

Yeah...has some ability. But until he shows he wasnt a one race wonder I will continue to ridicule him......saying he will be a threat to the handicap division is rather comical.

[blackthroatedwind]

Nothing wrong with rooting for Corinthian but I just never saw all this ability that everyone else did. I believe last year's FOY was a VERY bad race. To me Corinthian looks like yet another horse that will probably never race again and if he does it will not be very well. But I've been wrong before.

As for Sir Greeley....you're delusional. You have some deep affection for the horse that is severly clouding your judgement. I hope he makes all your dreams come true. Good luck to that.

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Euro,
Winter on the farm is pretty quiet lately. Good news is that Ciel Bonne and Daring Day are named and registered. Shot o' Bourbon and Darlin' by Day will be moving out soon.
As far as "lessons learned from chickens" goes...well, it's in the "politics" room.
Though some might not agree with what I have to say, it gives me a place to share some thoughts..or insanity. It's all about how you look at some things.

Thanks, I will have to check out that thread. Good to hear that everything is good on the farm.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

There are only two horses returning in the older male division that have run a great race and one that has run a very good one in Premium Tap. Behind them it is pretty wide open.

I agree. Definetly wide open. Premium tap looks like the real deal. Invasor is a monster. Who knows where Discreet Cat will end up. Lava Man has zero shot running outside of Cali...he should stay out there beating up on former claimers/hasbeens. Sweetnorthernsaint to me is a a nice horse....but has yet to prove he is top tier. Chatain looks like a very promising horse...lightly raced....I know he had a nice set up in last...but man...great race. One of my old favorites is supposedly gonna run again...Brass Hat....but he is coming off of a few bad injuries...if he was to get back to 100 percent he would be a top threat. SHould be an interesting year in the older division.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Yeah, it must suck being ridden by one the greatest riders ever.

First ripping Zito....then Nascar....now Pat Day. Congrats...you hit the "Ignore This Poster" Trifecta.......

Pat Day was beyond overrated....

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Nothing wrong with rooting for Corinthian but I just never saw all this ability that everyone else did. I believe last year's FOY was a VERY bad race. To me Corinthian looks like yet another horse that will probably never race again and if he does it will not be very well. But I've been wrong before.

As for Sir Greeley....you're delusional. You have some deep affection for the horse that is severly clouding your judgement. I hope he makes all your dreams come true. Good luck to that.

Blackthroat,
You could be entirely right with this.
Heck, just getting a horse back on the track after a serious injury shows me some hope. About as easy as breaking a cribber of the chewing.
We'll just have to wait and see.
Wherever Blockhead is nowadays, he knows that I put Corinthian out on here before the bad stuff happened. I'd like to see both Corinthian and Blocky back. Just might liven things up for the unbelievers, uhh, fans.

Originally Posted by stonegossard

First ripping Zito....then Nascar....now Pat Day. Congrats...you hit the "Ignore This Poster" Trifecta.......

Pat Day was beyond overrated....

I will let Pat Day's record speak for itself.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I will let Pat Day's record speak for itself.

Pat Day was no more skilled than many other riders of his time...he was fortunate to be fed excellent mounts and have the right connections. He really wasnt that "great" a rider.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Nothing wrong with rooting for Corinthian but I just never saw all this ability that everyone else did. I believe last year's FOY was a VERY bad race. To me Corinthian looks like yet another horse that will probably never race again and if he does it will not be very well. But I've been wrong before.

As for Sir Greeley....you're delusional. You have some deep affection for the horse that is severly clouding your judgement. I hope he makes all your dreams come true. Good luck to that.

I was just looking back at the Past Performances for the FOY. It actually wasn't as bad as I thought. First Sam was coming off a bunch of nice races (103/98/107), Great Point and My Golden Song had just lost by a small margin to Barbaro. Rehoboth was coming off a nice allowance win. Flashy Bull was showing some promising form at the time. Jazil was in the race as well. Not a good field but nowhere near as bad as the Dwyer. I think the real question that has to be answered was what was going on at the end of the race. Were we seeing a tiring horse veering out in the stretch because he was out of gas or were we seeing a horse with a lot left that got to the lead too early and started goofing off displaying his Buckpasser genes? If it is the former then there is little reason to expect he will improve significantly off that race. If it was the latter then there is reason to believe he could be very good.

We'll see if I look delusional or not come May. I bet Sir Greeley hits the board in both and I think it is 20-1 that he wins one of them.