Dreaming of Anna pointed towards the Derby?!

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Ain't that the truth!

Whoa, hey now!!

that response should have been accompanied by a rimshot.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Gemtwyst

There have been worse fillies who have faced the boys.

She's already faced them and beaten them, so that's definitely a mark in her favor, as all the other female Derby winners ran against colts before Derby Day.

For the past few years, everyone has talked about the BCJ Fillies winner taking on the colts (Storm Flag Flying, Halfbridled, Sweet Catomine, etc) and it never panned out, so let's not get our knickers in a twist yet, saying that Dreaming of Anna is going to be ruined when we don't even know what her first race is going to be.

exactly so....

fillies face colts quite often everywhere but here. it doesn't hurt them to run against colts.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

SHe's not in the class of Sweet Catomine, IMO. Not even close.

well, that's good then. sweet cat didn't do much of anything after her win in the bc.

I have often wondered why trainers do not attempt races like the Illinois Derby, Ohio Derby etc etc with their top fillies. Those fields are usually weak or only have 1 major contendar.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

well, that's good then. sweet cat didn't do much of anything after her win in the bc.

Um, yeah. I don't know quite how to respond to this. She won a G3 and then the Santa Anita Oaks (GI) as a sophomore, then tried the boys under what could only be described as dubious circumstances.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Um, yeah. I don't know quite how to respond to this. She won a G3 and then the Santa Anita Oaks (GI) as a sophomore, then tried the boys under what could only be described as dubious circumstances.

that was weird, wasn't it? and then whisked off to kentucky. it was a really bizarre episode.

not every day a horse gets vanned out of, and then back into, the track in the middle of the night.

quite frankly, i forgot she won the oaks. but she wasn't memorable to me-i was never that high on her for some reason.

[slotdirt]

She was supposedly in heat during the running of the SA Derby. I have no idea how that sort of physiological change would effect a runner, but I can't imagine it would be good. She deserved a better fate.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

She was supposedly in heat during the running of the SA Derby. I have no idea how that sort of physiological change would effect a runner, but I can't imagine it would be good. She deserved a better fate.

that struck me as odd as well-they usually give fillies something to keep them from going in season while in training. unless of course they had decided to breed, race her for a few months, and then retire her. just very strange all the way 'round....

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I have often wondered why trainers do not attempt races like the Illinois Derby, Ohio Derby etc etc with their top fillies. Those fields are usually weak or only have 1 major contendar.

That's what I would do. Usually, trainers try it once and if they lose, they give up. They should do like Lukas did with Serena's Song. I believe she won the Jim Beam early, lost the Derby and then won the Haskell later.

As Danzig said, fillies run against males all the time everywhere else in the world except here. It's really not as big a deal as people make it to be.

Also, this year's 3yo's don't seem to be that good of a group to me. I can't think of a single one that would scare me off if I had a good colt or filly at this point. The only ones that would cause me any concern are Nobiz and maybe Any Given Saturday. As we all know, so much can happen and change between now and Derby day so I'd at least point her to the race. Take a route with races facing males earlier. If she fails, she could always fall back to female races in time for the Oaks.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

That's what I would do. Usually, trainers try it once and if they lose, they give up. They should do like Lukas did with Serena's Song. I believe she won the Jim Beam early, lost the Derby and then won the Haskell later.

As Danzig said, fillies run against males all the time everywhere else in the world except here. It's really not as big a deal as people make it to be.

Also, this year's 3yo's don't seem to be that good of a group to me. I can't think of a single one that would scare me off if I had a good colt or filly at this point. The only ones that would cause me any concern are Nobiz and maybe Any Given Saturday. As we all know, so much can happen and change between now and Derby day so I'd at least point her to the race. Take a route with races facing males earlier. If she fails, she could always fall back to female races in time for the Oaks.

depends on how she runs. genuine risk ran third in the wood behind plugged nickel. that showed she belonged. the rest is history.
what the heck, half (or more) of the colts who run each year don't belong, certainly the top two year old filly would have more of a compelling argument for belonging than some of the others!

[slotdirt]

Lady's Secret ran well against the boys back in the day.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

it was mentioned right after the BC that frank possibly wanted to run this horse in the derby. i think you guys are giving leving a little too much credit. yes there are people alot less knowledgeable on the track thats for sure but some of the horses he claims i cannot even justify. frank is willing to take a horse they just claimed for 25 sit a month on them and drop to 15 and has had to do such because of steve and in alotta instances the horse still couldnt win


im not down there with them obviously in fla so i dont know to what extent if its true or not, but ive heard that some people are trying to get frank to take this horse away from wayne and give her to someone else. a huge mistake it would be, and a huge mistake for mr calabrese whom i like if he ever parts ways with wayne again becuase i dont foresee another reunion

Originally Posted by Danzig188

that was weird, wasn't it? and then whisked off to kentucky. it was a really bizarre episode.

not every day a horse gets vanned out of, and then back into, the track in the middle of the night.

They probably wanted the vet to palpate her ovaries to make sure she was ready to be bred.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Gemtwyst

They probably wanted the vet to palpate her ovaries to make sure she was ready to be bred.

you romantic, silver-tongued devil you. lol

Originally Posted by Danzig188

you romantic, silver-tongued devil you. lol

HAH! I just got back from my animal reproduction class, so.... yeah, my mind's in the correct mode for perversion.