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Old 03-29-2007, 04:48 PM
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To the punch....I have been beaten.
You could have added the fact that Silver Train was never a champion, just a BC Sprint winner.
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:49 PM
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yea correct he won the jerome at belmont, but either way silver train is better then anything bernardini ever faced that was the point i was trying to make.
silver train is better then invasor?? you've gotta be kidding me.
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:49 PM
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yea correct he won the jerome at belmont, but either way silver train is better then anything bernardini ever faced that was the point i was trying to make.
Spooky Mulder beat Silver Train. Hell, Tani Maru beat Silver Train. Away from Belmont he's not a very good horse. Premium Tap, who Bernardini beat is a much a better horse than Silver Train at a mile at Aqueduct.
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:49 PM
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yea correct he won the jerome at belmont, but either way silver train is better then anything bernardini ever faced that was the point i was trying to make.
Oops, my bad, for whatever reason I thought this was your point...

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he has already soundly defeated a champion on his own track, silver train that is, on a track he loved... belmont.
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:50 PM
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silver train is better then invasor?? you've gotta be kidding me.
up to the classic... dam

breeders cup sprint champion, backed it up winning the met over sun king
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:51 PM
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up to the classic... dam

breeders cup sprint champion, backed it up winning the met over sun king
lol
sorry dude--you sure get hammered on here a lot, don't you?

but i still disagree...silver train wasn't all that, he just liked belmont a LOT.
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:53 PM
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up to the classic... dam

breeders cup sprint champion, backed it up winning the met over sun king
OK, so Bernardini has faced less than Discreet Cat going into the showdown against Invasor if that makes you feel better. Of course Bernardini had run at the relevant distance prior to the showdown unlike Discreet Cat. Let's see if Discreet Cat can even beat Premium Tap at 10 furlongs before we worry about him against Invasor.
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Old 03-29-2007, 05:21 PM
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OK, so Bernardini has faced less than Discreet Cat going into the showdown against Invasor if that makes you feel better. Of course Bernardini had run at the relevant distance prior to the showdown unlike Discreet Cat. Let's see if Discreet Cat can even beat Premium Tap at 10 furlongs before we worry about him against Invasor.
at the mo, its DC 1 Invasor 0!!
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Old 03-29-2007, 06:41 PM
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at the mo, its DC 1 Invasor 0!!
Brock, I think that win does mean something especially b/c it wasn't even close. This is DC's home track and he has shown an affinity for it....Just wish DC had a prep. Think he still wins, but it won't be easy.
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Old 03-29-2007, 06:54 PM
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Assuming the track plays even, it looks like Discreet Cats race to lose. There is very little pace in here and he should be able to dictate the race from the front end or just off the flank of one of the pretenders. He can run the turns as well as any horse in training and may have a sizable advantage turning for home. If he can get 2400 meters then I see him as the most likely winner.
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:12 PM
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God that was awesome. What a memory. Even though PP had it in the bag. He had already given MDO the ole evil eye. Funny thing about that race, I am life long friends with his exercise rider Crystal, our moms have been best friends for over 30yrs. We had a big old breakfast get together at her moms house to watch the race. We were so excited during the race that the phone starts ringing off the hook, it is 2 of the neighbors wanting to know what was the matter and if we needed the police. Seems we were cheering ole PP on just alittle to loudly! As you can tell by my screename I am alittle partial to him.
Even though MDO was 2nd, I thought it was his best race. My daughter and I were also cheering for Pleasantly Perfect! My neighbors are used to it by now.
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:52 PM
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I just have this feeling that I will wake up tomorrow and read a headline something like this "Discreet Cat spikes fever - withdrawn from WC"
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:54 PM
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I just have this feeling that I will wake up tomorrow and read a headline something like this "Discreet Cat spikes fever - withdrawn from WC"
Or perhaps that DC is so far superior to every horse in the field and in the world that he has, in fact, ALREADY won the World Cup by tomorrow morning.
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:00 PM
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Order of finish...
"D.C."
INVASOR
PREMIUM TAP

What more can be said???
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:04 PM
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Order of finish...
"D.C."
INVASOR
PREMIUM TAP

What more can be said???
I obviously think that your winner will come from either DC or Invasor, but Vermilion looks the part to snag a piece too the more I look at it.
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:05 PM
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I think this love for Premium Tap in here is misplaced. How he beats these I don't know. He's an underlaid price anyway.
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:15 PM
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I think this love for Premium Tap in here is misplaced. How he beats these I don't know. He's an underlaid price anyway.
Totally agree, he couldn't beat D.C. or Invasor over here...no way he's gonna in the desert!
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:52 PM
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Totally agree, he couldn't beat D.C. or Invasor over here...no way he's gonna in the desert!
He seems to be liking the desert and ran a nice race in Saudi Arabia from what I hear. . . Invasor's one bad race was there so who knows how he'll run this time. . . So while I don't think Premium Tap will win (but he can), I don't agree with the argument that he has less of a chance to win because of where the race is. . .
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:44 PM
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Absolutely love Invasor in this race becuase their will be value there with Discreet Cat in the race and some other horses that have no shot, he might be worth a $500 win wager, thus all of Saturday will be a free day. While I think Discreet Cat is a monster, he is a monster at the longest, 9 furlongs, after that, issues. The only caution I have is I said this about Ghostzapper and Zapper and DC have comparable numbers and performances so I could be wrong again.

So, $500 win wager on Invasor early in the morning, and then get to piss away those winnings on the rest of Saturday......
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:52 PM
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Absolutely love Invasor in this race becuase their will be value there with Discreet Cat in the race and some other horses that have no shot, he might be worth a $500 win wager, thus all of Saturday will be a free day. While I think Discreet Cat is a monster, he is a monster at the longest, 9 furlongs, after that, issues. The only caution I have is I said this about Ghostzapper and Zapper and DC have comparable numbers and performances so I could be wrong again.

So, $500 win wager on Invasor early in the morning, and then get to piss away those winnings on the rest of Saturday......
I'll say to you the same thing I said to the "Ghostzapper can't go 10 furlongs" posse. You know that Discreet Cat has issues after 9 furlongs, how? Did you see him tank in some 10-furlong race that I didn't see?
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