Don Imus and Rutgers Women

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

I listen to Imus everyday and he and his staff pick on everybody.I'm jewish and i laugh at the fun they make of jews.His producer Bernard does a routine as the cardinal where he announces the winning lotto numbers amongst other things and used to where a Fed-Ex letter package as a hat.I've yet to hear any Christian organization up in arms about it.Lets face it Al Shapton thrives on other peoples misery.That's the only time you hear from him.It's no different in the Sean Bell case.When all the evidence is produced it will be proven that those policemen acted wiuthin the guidelines.I'm still waiting for Sharpton to apologize about the Tawana Brawley case where a young girl made up a story that she was raped and had fecies put on her.It happened in Wappinger Falls NY.It ruined one guys life.Sharpton and his buddy Alton Maddox never apologized for what they did.The irony is that my sister in-laws parents were principals in schools in Brooklyn and Sharpton went there and was a troublemaker then already.Hey Al you happen to remember Yankel Rosenbaum who was killed in Brooklyn by Lemerick Nelson.

This is interesting because Sharpton getting all mad at Imus made me think Imus might not be such a bad guy. I remember when that girl made up the story about being raped by the clan. Sharpton got all involved and it turned out to be a hoax and after Sharpton had criticized about everyone in the country he shut his mouth and never put up a retraction. Never apologized to the police and all the people he had punched in the press. He does thrive on hate.

Imus must still retract his hair statement with the mess he owns.

[timmgirvan]

Usually he has a cowboy hat on....not all 'poofy' like that shot!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I think, with a show like his, you need to know the context,and you wont get it unless you watch (or listen)to that particular show.I would say each day that the people working for him call him ugly,or dried up etc.,and they (especially Imus) laugh about it.He is dead serious about some things,but this is not one of them.He is paid to entertain,and he starts getting nervous when the show isn't being funny,and he will start something crazy like this talking about players' looks.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I think, with a show like his, you need to know the context,and you wont get it unless you watch (or listen)to that particular show.I would say each day that the people working for him call him ugly,or dried up etc.,and they (especially Imus) laugh about it.He is dead serious about some things,but this is not one of them.He is paid to entertain,and he starts getting nervous when the show isn't being funny,and he will start something crazy like this talking about players' looks.

This above be true.
But ya gotta think about who you are insulting. Most of the Girls actually go to school and really are student athletes. Its almost like picking on High School kids. The Mens basketball... you can rap them to death. I dont think Imus would have got in trouble questioning how Noah got so ugly given her mother is Miss Sweden. The Ho stuff was a bit much. Only rappers are allowed that stuff.

Although the ugly Presidents daughters on Sat. Night live was always funny. God did they slay Amy Carter. That girl was just beat up. Billy Carter was fair game... (RIP) big fella.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by pgardn

This above be true.
But ya gotta think about who you are insulting. Most of the Girls actually go to school and really are student athletes. Its almost like picking on High School kids. The Mens basketball... you can rap them to death. I dont think Imus would have got in trouble questioning how Noah got so ugly given her mother is Miss Sweden. The Ho stuff was a bit much. Only rappers are allowed that stuff.

Although the ugly Presidents daughters on Sat. Night live was always funny. God did they slay Amy Carter. That girl was just beat up. Billy Carter was fair game... (RIP) big fella.

This is actually nothing new for this show,but the "heavy" was different in this situation.They normally have this Bernard character say these things,and then Don tells him it's inappropriate etc. He'll say "That's an unfortunate comment." Seems that the audience accepts the fact that Bernard is a racist,or is playing one.If Don says something outrageous,he almost always apologizes (says that he didn't mean that) right away.I am surprised anybody took this guy seriously.You'd be complaining a lot about this show if you take it seriously.

[golfer]

Phil Mushnick of the NY Post writes about this this morning. He's been on the Imus case for years.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04092007...ick.htm?page=0

[Downthestretch55]

Interesting...how this thread proved something.
When it started, someone said to not take offense.
Then later, when the same someone thought I was taking a shot at him, he took offense (nevermind the unconnected name-calling). Then to defense mode. Yada yada yada.
It only proved my point. Go back and reread this thread from the first page and you might see for yourself.
Now, back to Imus...he'll be on Sharpton's radio show. He also wants to meet the Rutgers Women's BB team to apologize "face to face".
My best guess is that if he had the opportunity to take back his words, he would. Unfortunately for him, it might be too late.
Racism and sexism are not going to go unnoticed, and certainly not unchallenged.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/sleza...arol08.article

[byalip]

I'm really outraged by Imus and sick of slick racist innuendo.

I'm also sick of BET and WB giving airtime to videos, music and tv shows that have black kids calling one another ho's and ni**as. These dumb kids are basically cr*pping on 300 years of black struggle in the USA to gain respect.

What they've done is made these words and ideas mainstream. Now every white kid--or radio host, like Imus--is using those words to appear cool.

Let's be honest--it's one thing to use a slur within the community, be it black, jewish, polish or whatever--but you are really crossing way over the line to intended insult and racism when you are not part of that group.

[byalip]

One more thing...

Did you know that one of the women Imus insulted has a straight 4.0 average and another has a triple major? To reduce these scholar-athletes to a racist stereotype simply for entertainment is reprehensible.

I'd like to hear Imus say what he said to these girls' fathers and see what reaction he gets. Do you honestly think they'd find it funny?

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by byalip

I'm really outraged by Imus and sick of slick racist innuendo.

I'm also sick of BET and WB giving airtime to videos, music and tv shows that have black kids calling one another ho's and ni**as. These dumb kids are basically cr*pping on 300 years of black struggle in the USA to gain respect.

What they've done is made these words and ideas mainstream. Now every white kid--or radio host, like Imus--is using those words to appear cool.

Let's be honest--it's one thing to use a slur within the community, be it black, jewish, polish or whatever--but you are really crossing way over the line to intended insult and racism when you are not part of that group.

OOOOOOOOOO

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by byalip

One more thing...

Did you know that one of the women Imus insulted has a straight 4.0 average and another has a triple major? To reduce these scholar-athletes to a racist stereotype simply for entertainment is reprehensible.

I'd like to hear Imus say what he said to these girls' fathers and see what reaction he gets. Do you honestly think they'd find it funny?

OOOOOOOOOO

[byalip]

You knew I ride into town sooner or later, didn't you?

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by byalip

I'm really outraged by Imus and sick of slick racist innuendo.

I'm also sick of BET and WB giving airtime to videos, music and tv shows that have black kids calling one another ho's and ni**as. These dumb kids are basically cr*pping on 300 years of black struggle in the USA to gain respect.

What they've done is made these words and ideas mainstream. Now every white kid--or radio host, like Imus--is using those words to appear cool.

Let's be honest--it's one thing to use a slur within the community, be it black, jewish, polish or whatever--but you are really crossing way over the line to intended insult and racism when you are not part of that group.

Byalip,
Pay that other one no mind (how appropriate )
Here's more fire...right back at Imus.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/50351/#more

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by byalip

You knew I ride into town sooner or later, didn't you?

Yer sure no one to mess with.


Pay no never mind to ClownTheRetch.



He ain't worth the paperwork.

[Grits]

The NYPost article is a very good one. And Byalip is right here, in every sense of the word. And so is DowntheStretch who has fought this one.

WHY get offended? My question is along the lines of WHY NOT, if I was the parent of one of these young women?

This man is screwed, and he knows it. Like ALL shock radio, and most talking heads, he's nothing beyond his own mouthpiece. Just like Stern, Limbaugh, et al.

When anyone feels they can only elevate themselves at the expense of others, sooner or later, they get their comeuppance. Imus has done this for sometime.

He's simply an old, doddering, man.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by byalip

I'm really outraged by Imus and sick of slick racist innuendo.

I'm also sick of BET and WB giving airtime to videos, music and tv shows that have black kids calling one another ho's and ni**as. These dumb kids are basically cr*pping on 300 years of black struggle in the USA to gain respect.

What they've done is made these words and ideas mainstream. Now every white kid--or radio host, like Imus--is using those words to appear cool.

Let's be honest--it's one thing to use a slur within the community, be it black, jewish, polish or whatever--but you are really crossing way over the line to intended insult and racism when you are not part of that group.

I disagree. I don't think it's right to slur those kinds of words PERIOD. I don't care if you're in that 'group' or not.

[byalip]

Nicely put, GRITS.

What's really sad is that the Imus Ranch is a terrific charity and the Imus Greening products, which I use, are also a good and important product.

Both will suffer because of this incident. That's what racism does and that's the unfortunate price....the innocent and good suffer.

[byalip]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I disagree. I don't think it's right to slur those kinds of words PERIOD. I don't care if you're in that 'group' or not.

Maybe I didn't make myself entirely clear. I AGREE with you that it's not right to use those words either within or outside the community. The little experiment with making them mainstream to kind of take the sting out of the original meaning just hasn't worked. They've retained their original ugliness.

I was trying to explain that anyone from outside the community is really getting into very deep trouble.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Who gives two sh!ts about what some ol' washed-up has-been says?

I would think, mostly no one Baba. Still its wrong for these women and their families.

More importantly, how is the kidney stone, and how are you feeling? Much better, I hope.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by byalip

Maybe I didn't make myself entirely clear. I AGREE with you that it's not right to use those words either within or outside the community. The little experiment with making them mainstream to kind of take the sting out of the original meaning just hasn't worked. They've retained their original ugliness.

I was trying to explain that anyone from outside the community is really getting into very deep trouble.

K, sorry for misunderstanding. It just stinks to see members from a certain race slurring words like 'nigg*r' and it's OK, but if someone from outside that race says the words, that particular race is rushing to proclaim the other person as a racist. It's so much easier just avoiding the term all together. It's a crying shame we can't all just get along and accept one another for the people that we are instead of the color of the skin.