Pletcher has his mounts set for the Derby

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Don't think ANY are quite as good as Pletcher's boys...wish you luck in the Derby,
but I'll take any of Pletcher's trainees over NoBiz...he won't be in my top "5" on Derby day!

I guess you won't be cashing a ticket then.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'm concerned about Circular Quay. You've made it plainly clear you don't like Pletcher's horses and that's your perogative. It's ludicrous for you to 'guarantee' that none of them will make the super, though. Think about that... he'll probably have 25% of the field and you don't think one of them will make the superfecta?

Zito....Zito...anyone...anyone...

I think it is preposterous for anyone to think that Pletcher's horses don't have a chance to hit somewhere in the super. I do, however, believe that none of his horses will win.

I will bet Pletcher horses everywhere and anywhere, except in the Derby. At least untill he proves he can get the job done at the big dance. That, and I have not been exceedingly impressed by any of his horses this year. The only horses I think have a shot at hitting the board for him are Circular Quay and Scat Daddy.

Just my thoughts...

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i would take at least 5 guys over ramon, he tends to get his horses into trouble... rose is possibly the most underated jockey in the game

Personally, I don't care for Rose at all. In MD he thinks he owns the joint and has no problem crowding or taking an aggresive ride against other horses and jocks shipping in from smaller tracks. To me, he is overrated and pompous, and I would take Rosie or Fogelsonger over him in MD anyday for any of my horses.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Umm. . . Cornelio? Maybe Kent? I don't even know who #18 and 20 are. . .

http://www.ntra.com/stats_bios.aspx?id=1855

Dunkelberger is a very very good rider. Because he rides mostly at Charlestown and occaisonally in MD he is less known. I believe he has had some nasty injurys before and is very picky in his mounts because of that.

If you ever play CT, you know who he is.

[slotdirt]

I am pretty certain Dunkelberger is really good friends with the state vet out of Charles Town. I swear like once per night one of his mounts is a late scratch on the "advice of the state veterinarian."

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I am pretty certain Dunkelberger is really good friends with the state vet out of Charles Town. I swear like once per night one of his mounts is a late scratch on the "advice of the state veterinarian."

I don't blame the guy if he feels his ride is unsafe to race. I also believe that is part of his job, to alert the Vet to a horse he feels may not be "fit" to race.

Also, let's be honest, CT is a place where some "trainers" and "owners" will continue to race a horse, who should be placed on a farm somwhere, just to get some inflated slot purses.

[saucon17]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I am pretty certain Dunkelberger is really good friends with the state vet out of Charles Town. I swear like once per night one of his mounts is a late scratch on the "advice of the state veterinarian."

I having seen him in last couple weeks until going through results and
I saw he was riding at Fort Pierre in South Dakota.

[slotdirt]

Really? THere is a second Dunkelberger out there that I've seen at Charles Town.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Really? THere is a second Dunkelberger out there that I've seen at Charles Town.

Wow, I just looked and that is him out there at Ft. Pierre. I wonder what he is doing out there racing. Interesting...

[saucon17]

Originally Posted by ARyan

Wow, I just looked and that is him out there at Ft. Pierre. I wonder what he is doing out there racing. Interesting...

I hope not for the purses, He might be from that area.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by saucon17

I hope not for the purses, He might be from that area.

I hope something like that! $2,300. for a MSW!!

[slotdirt]

I found this on him, for whatever it's worth:

http://www.assiniboiadowns.com/insid...2_number13.htm

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I found this on him, for whatever it's worth:

http://www.assiniboiadowns.com/insid...2_number13.htm

Thanks Slot. Makes sense now.

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Maybe someone knows more then what I have been told in regards Mike Smith, but isnt he riding Tiago???????

[tycharles01]

For Derby per NTRA.com

Stewart Elliott Teuflesberg
Corey Nakatani Great Hunter .
Victor Espinoza Cobalt Blue,
David Flores Liquidity.

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Cobalt Blue has enough earnings to be in, and even if he does, why?

[viscount26]

After having the pleasure of meeting Kent D on the flight to Lexington last Thursday, and the results he had from limited rides
4 winners top price being a $57 winner
2 seconds and 2 thirds. He deserves a ride on a good horse.

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Originally Posted by viscount26

After having the pleasure of meeting Kent D on the flight to Lexington last Thursday, and the results he had from limited rides
4 winners top price being a $57 winner
2 seconds and 2 thirds. He deserves a ride on a good horse.

and you get the added bonus of him having won this race, not once but twice!

[XIIPointStables]

Originally Posted by viscount26

After having the pleasure of meeting Kent D on the flight to Lexington last Thursday, and the results he had from limited rides
4 winners top price being a $57 winner
2 seconds and 2 thirds. He deserves a ride on a good horse.

I think Kent D is on Stormello for the Derby no?

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Originally Posted by XIIPointStables

I think Kent D is on Stormello for the Derby no?

yea, thats is correct, his brilliant trainers new strategy is to take the horse back and make one run in this paceless race.