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Old 07-09-2007, 04:29 PM
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Cajun, do me a favor. Go back through this thread and tell me that I have said anything worse than at least 2 other people, who of course no one came after. I never said a word about how the horse was spotted. I said he should retire the horse, which you agreed with. And I said I thought Murray Johnson was a bad trainer, which at least 2 others agreed with. I also thought he might have done better with another trainer, which again, at least 2 agreed with. I guess I shouldn't have an opinion. From now on I'll just talk about how pretty horseys are and make lame sexual innuendos with every other post I make.
Where did I say you shouldn't post your opinion? I never said that at all (I agree with most of it)... you just so happened to degrade another poster's opinion and guess what? He's entitled to his opinion too.

I'm sure that mentioning you just lost your lunch was really relevant to this topic.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:32 PM
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:33 PM
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You're right, Dave.

Hoss,

I'm sorry. (Seriously.)

Back to topic...

Perfect Drift needs to be retired.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:34 PM
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It was as relevant as what was added by the person who I was responding to.

I didn't degrade anyone's opinion, I disagreed. And thought it was sort of unecessary to drag Chuck into this and call into question his numbers when he had nothing to do with anything.
I agree.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:37 PM
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I agree.
That's good!

Never leave for happy hour on a down note.....
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:46 PM
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That's good!

Never leave for happy hour on a down note.....
I'm glad you're leaving for happy hour, B. I'm stuck here for another hour.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:22 PM
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Of course I am of the belief that he was never more than a good grade 2 horse that overachieved on many occasions.
IMO, Perfect Drift was an OUTSTANDING 4-year-old....and would have dominated any older male in the country right now.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:26 PM
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IMO, Perfect Drift was an OUTSTANDING 4-year-old....and would have dominated any older male in the country right now.
This is hardly a year to use as a benchmark
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:32 PM
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I realize that much.

But, it's the kind of year that makes me nostalgic for performances like PD's first four on dirt during his 4yo season.

I think people tend to forget the kind of races he ran at that time. He won his first dirt race at four in the Foster, beating Mineshaft by a half length, running a 117 Beyer. Next out Met Mile winner, and three time Grade 1 winner that season Aldebaran was 3rd beaten double digits in that race.

In his 3rd start of the year on dirt, he defeated Congaree in hand, in what was an awesome performance.

When you look this year, we are through a half a season, and Accountforthegold is the only older horse to run two Beyers of 109 or more going a route of ground...it's amusing.

All the hanging issues started the next year.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:42 PM
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I thought Perfect Drift might have been the morning line favorite for the Breeders Cup Classic during his 4yo season....I went back and checked and he was the 2nd choice.

BREEDERS' CUP CLASSIC - POWERED BY DODGE
Total Purse: $4 million; 1 1/4 miles
Post Horse Jockey Trainer M/L Odds
1 Evening Attire J. Velazquez Patrick J. Kelly 15-1
2 Pleasantly Perfect A. Solis Richard E. Mandella 10-1
3 Volponi J. Santos Phillip G. Johnson 15-1
4 Funny Cide J. Krone Barclay Tagg 8-1
5 Hold That Tiger E. Prado Aidan P. O'Brien 12-1
6 Dynever C. Nakatani Christophe Clement 15-1
7 Perfect Drift G. Stevens Murray W. Johnson 7-2
8 Medaglia d'Oro J. Bailey Robert J. Frankel 3-1
9 Congaree P. Velenzuela Bob Baffert 6-1
10 Ten Most Wanted P. Day Wallace Dollase 4-1


That's a pretty decent field right there...even without Mineshaft. If people remember back to 2003---Murray Johnson kept saying he was going to skip the Breeders Cup and run Perfect Drift in the Melbourne Cup instead.

To me, that was pure insanity on his part.
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:28 PM
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DrugS, is that Andre Dawson as your avatar?
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:30 PM
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Of course it is.

"The Hawk" was the greatest.

Although, the guy who posts here under the moniker "The Hawk" is a bit of a tool.
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:33 PM
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Of course it is.

"The Hawk" was the greatest.

Although, the guy who posts here under the moniker "The Hawk" is a bit of a tool.
Yes he was.

Hard to see on my laptop, avatars are awful small.

Very cool.
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:44 PM
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Hopefully he gets into the Hall of Fame one day.
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:18 PM
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Hopefully he gets into the Hall of Fame one day.
Yes he was, it is a shame that he isn't in there already. Was the best player in the MLB for years and didn't get recognized for it until he came to the Chicago where the Cubs still sucked and he won the MVP....
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:25 PM
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Congrats to Brass Hat and connections in his win.


Murray Johnson, imo, not great trainer but decent, better than some trainers
but not others. He at least gave P. Drift the chance to run against the best horses, not find the easy spots to just make money and wins, like some trainers we all know wouldve done.

My thanks to Murray and Perfect Drift for the great races we all enjoyed seeing.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:20 PM
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Hopefully he gets into the Hall of Fame one day.
He will get in before Steve Garvey
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:28 PM
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He will get in before Steve Garvey

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Old 07-09-2007, 11:05 PM
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Congrats to Brass Hat and connections in his win.


Murray Johnson, imo, not great trainer but decent, better than some trainers
but not others. He at least gave P. Drift the chance to run against the best horses, not find the easy spots to just make money and wins, like some trainers we all know wouldve done.

My thanks to Murray and Perfect Drift for the great races we all enjoyed seeing.
Maybe they will write a race at The Fingerdogs for him.

He could buck heads with Funny Cide
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:35 PM
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Maybe they will write a race at The Fingerdogs for him.

He could buck heads with Funny Cide
He isn't popular enough.

What are they going to say....."Come see....the horse who ran 3rd in the Derby!"

Unless FC was in the race as well, I don't think they'd alter a race for Perfect Drift.
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