BC: Classic (PP's/Odds)

[Cajungator26]

Hard Spun...

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

i know alot of folks dont give tiago any credit, but he is going to run a HUGE race.

Trainer says horse is doing great and if Shirreffs thinks the horse can improve - I'm a believer.

He will be on my ticket - maybe at the top...as a huge value play...

[ArlJim78]

I'm not getting the Tiago enthusiasm. to me none of his races seem of the level that it would take to win this. you can say he might improve, but i'm not willing to assume that kind of improvement all of a sudden. he nosed Awesome Gem who was beat by Student Council who is skipping this race.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I'm not getting the Tiago enthusiasm. to me none of his races seem of the level that it would take to win this. you can say he might improve, but i'm not willing to assume that kind of improvement all of a sudden. he nosed Awesome Gem who was beat by Student Council who is skipping this race.

agree, he is slow as slow is.....(in regards to everyone else in the race, he is going to have to make up 10-12 lengths on a horse like Curlin, who will improve, not going to happen

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Scav

agree, he is slow as slow is.....(in regards to everyone else in the race, he is going to have to make up 10-12 lengths on a horse like Curlin, who will improve, not going to happen

Exacta or Tri ? hall of fame jockey in the irons

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Exacta or Tri ? hall of fame jockey in the irons

I don't think it makes a big difference who is in the irons.
IF Tiago takes a step forward, he MIGHT finish 3rd or 4th, but I see no scenario in which that horse is in the exacta. He is a nice horse, but there are five horses in the race that are - on paper - simply better than him, and there is no factor that stands out as a reason why that would change on Saturday.
For me he is for filling out the bottom of exotics only.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I don't think it makes a big difference who is in the irons.
IF Tiago takes a step forward, he MIGHT finish 3rd or 4th, but I see no scenario in which that horse is in the exacta. He is a nice horse, but there are five horses in the race that are - on paper - simply better than him, and there is no factor that stands out as a reason why that would change on Saturday.
For me he is for filling out the bottom of exotics only.

The horse just seems too slow to factor in for any meaningful placing. I think you're totally spot on in thinking that with a step forward from where he's at now -- he MAY have a shot to crack the super -- but given that nearly all of the entrants are faster than he is, and that Monmouth is going to play against his type given he has no discernibly noticeable turn of foot, he seems up against it.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

The horse just seems too slow to factor in for any meaningful placing. I think you're totally spot on in thinking that with a step forward from where he's at now -- he MAY have a shot to crack the super -- but given that nearly all of the entrants are faster than he is, and that Monmouth is going to play against his type given he has no discernibly noticeable turn of foot, he seems up against it.

I have to agree. I thought he might be a viable longshot, but I was completely wrong. Like you have said, he is simply too slow. With the absence of a speed duel, he is really up against it for even a 3rd or 4th place finish.

[johnny pinwheel]

i agree . lawyer ron has not raced well at the 10f. i like hardspun. loved the haskell run off the triple crown. the cut back and the win over street sense. its all systems go at 8 or 9 to 1!

[otisotisotis]

no hard spun, street sense
that was an unfair match race
curlin, oh curlin

[NoChanceToDance]

Dylan Thomas is out to 3/2 over here no. The major betting firms forecast him going off at 7/4 - 15/8 (if he makes the line up)